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Black Friday offer for RTV £10 a month offer is seemingly available to existing customers. I added it, then called up to confirm and they said that existing subscription is cancelled and Black Friday deal added.
Rang this morning,got through after 40mins. They refused to offer me the deal as I’m an existing subscriber and then cut me off!
No enjoyment watchin RTV another example with the john durkan there, peterbrough commentary being made priority, the grade 1 regardless if its ireland or england should always take centre stage, crazy stuff IMO they need to put a red button on, happens every other week
Absolute farce having the John durkan and peterborough chase clashing
Then the seperate race feeds crash on the racing TV website so I missed pretty much the entirety of both races
Couldn’t agree more. The clash of the Durkan and the Peterborough ruined both. Ok, Davy Russell’s illness delayed things in Ireland, but with two other cards as well, Kelso and Cork, this has shown up yet again how RTV has too much racing and Sky Sports not enough.
One thing occurs to me – why not revert the Peterborough to a weekday, like the Halton Gold Cup. At least it would get the attention it deserves.The quicker they get to Replay the better and we can actually watch a race with commentary and without a split screen or crawlers.
Having said that, we didn’t get to see Navan from yesterday
Ah, MJ reports it will be included in today’s Irish Replay.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
To be fair, Davy Russell’s illness delayed the race at Punchestown which is no one’s fault. However, scheduling the two main races within 10 minutes of each other did run the risk of a clash.
Irish racing is being short changed by RTV. British racing always takes priority. Only having full screen and commentary on an important Grade 1 for the last half mile is not good.
There was one day last week when RTV had a split screen on the first two races of the day!
Punchestown Chairman unhappy with Rtv coverage.
I don’t blame him. The John Durkan is the most important pre-Christmas Grade 1 this side of the water and the only open 2 1/2 mile chase in the Irish calendar. Out of the 9 runners today, 6 were grade 1 winners including the lowest rated horse in the race. Of the remaining 3 horses, 2 had won grade 2s and the other has amassed over half a million in prize money including Gold Cup placings and one of Ireland’s richest handicaps.
It’s like running the Ascot Chase in silence while the commentary for something like the Kinloch Brae is played on the other half of the split screen. It messes up both races; the Peterborough is a decent grade 2 in its own right.
How expensive would it be to have a RTV2 channel?
It would be better if they just showed one race and announced that the other race would be shown in full in a few minutes time when this one finishes
People might say that’s not ideal for people betting in running ….. but then do people really bet in running on TV coverage which has a built in delay ?
As many of you know, I cancelled my RTV subscription in May. As Ham says, there is “no enjoyment” in watching RTV anymore. It used to be very enjoyable viewing until it acquired Irish racing and from the start, Greenasgrass, I have been an advocate of a second channel. I will not resubscribe until there is one. So, I’m an example of money lost by racing to other sports.
That is not to have a pop at Irish racing, it’s just not my cup of tea.
Punchestown/HRI are understandably “very disappointed” about Sunday’s occurence, and all you ever hear from RTV is along the lines of “Unfortunately, we are always at the mercy of unforeseen delays in horseracing, but we will review Sunday’s output and the processes in place and will continue close dialogue with the BHA, HRI and the racecourses about the planning and management of race times to improve the scheduling of UK and Irish racing. Good progress has been made this year on that front but there’s always more that can be done.”,however, RTV are obliged to show all British races live, unforseen delays in NH racing are common enough to be forseen, and the real problem is AIR ceding control of the rights to SIS, otherwise Irish racing would still be on a second channel (ATR/SSR).
The chairman of AIR is Conor O’Neill who is also chair of HRI’s media rights committee AND general manager of Punchestown! Was it greed or lack of foresight which led to the rights being sold?
I have every sympathy with fans of Irish racing who had to endure a huge race with virtually no commentary entirely on a split screen. But as a fan of British racing it is equally annoying to receive the big domestic race of the day on a split screen, with all of the distractions that that entails. RTV’s own greed has ruined the channel.
My suggestion for yesterday is that the John Durkan having already been delayed for 11 minutes should have been held until the Peterborough was finished, with the subsequent race at Cork (and if necessary the 2.15 at Kelso) then also being delayed. Racecourses are capable of catching up and getting back on schedule. All it takes is cooperation and, because of RTV’s obligations to British racing, O’Neill and his colleagues should be willing to bend over backwards to give it. They presumably knew of RTV’s obligations when selling the Irish rights and, therefore, their complaints when this kind of situation occurs are founded on very shaky ground. As usual it’s the paying customer who loses out in every way.
It worked well in the past on ATR because they had the rights to fewer meetings overall so a race clash was less likely (but not a given that it would never happen) and should it become a case where SSR are able to get more racecourse to jump ship to their side they will face the exact same problem too.
At the end of the day I think a RTV2 channel will most likely be the answer (assuming that it is a cost issue for why they haven’t put it in place already prior to Irish racing coming aboard) but both sides must come together to better plan race times between them for next season especially on days when there are multiple cards on both sides of the water.
I am fortunate to have both RTV & ATR/SSR and have online access but even that ended up going pear shape as I couldn’t access the Punchestown feed seperately for most of the race as it just had a black screen with the words ‘loading’ even though I have superfast broadband access….
Granted there will be odd times when it is out of their control to avoid clashes but in this day and age that should be kept to a bare minimum all it will take is a little more cooperation and most importantly much better communication…..a problem racing in general seems to suffer badly from.
In two years time the rights to the irish racing will be back up for grabs for 2023, you can just bet in about 20 months time you will see a sudden upturn in the coverage of Irish racing from rtv and suddenly British courses who tracks are not due for imminent renewal will suddenly take a backseat.
The question is will the HRI/AIR drop the deal they have with SIS which is what caused the switch in the first place, if they do SSR will come into play if they don’t SIS deal with Rtv will no doubt be renewed plus expect RMG to offer so sort of concession in 2022.
SIS are the main reason Rtv is oversubscribed, SIS own shares in Leicester, Stratford & Chelmsford which is why the switched as well from ATR, so it is all down to SIS keeping the irish contract and the Rtv pictures deal.
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