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  • #392241
    elgransenor1
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    Yeah good call Zarks.

    Not convinced Bob’s Worth is completely happy over fences.

    #392255
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    I am all over bobs worth for the rsa now. I am topping up on the 7s on offer and plan a little saver on ivictus on the day.

    My chief concern is his jumping. Loses ground too much and kills his momentum. He has stamina in bundles and i hope cheltenham will play to his strengths.

    #392269
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    expect Bobs Worth to come on a tonne for that run, stayed on well towards the finish.

    #392278
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    "Walkon is going to have to step up in trip and I don’t think this fellow wants to be going back, so they both might end up in the RSA."

    Nice to hear from Alan King re. Invictus.

    Bit baffled as to the excuses about Bob’s Worth to be honest. A bit of improvement can be expected for sure, but also from Invictus who isn’t just improving as a chaser, but as a horse too. He was only rated 122 over hurdles compared to Bob’s Worth’s 152.

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    TomBarkley87
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    People knocking Bobs Worth’s credentials for the festival today are clearly forgetting the key Cheltenham form guides – course form, festival form! :roll:

    As good as he may be, for me Grands Crus won’t win without a prep, which leaves it open to a couple. Bobs Worth CAN win, but First Lieutenant is still my bet.

    #392439
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    Bobs Worth will come on for that and he obviously wasn’t fancied as the market showed, he’s got the course/festival form BUT is his jumping good enough to win a RSA, that’s my only nagging doubt.

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    I’m amazed that Nicky Henderson said Bobs Worth was his most pleasing result over the weekend.
    He clearly does not like going right handed, the stable said this after kempton, so why run him that way he could have run at Newbury. It reminds me of Paul Nicholls running Denman at Aintree when he knew the horse couldn’t act round there.
    If Bobs Worth ran to form on Saturday then Grands Crus ain’t gonna win.
    Aparrantly the horse had a problem prior to Saturday which NH failed yet again to tell the punters, but the stable obviously knew resulting in him being drifting in the betting.
    I’ve got him at 8/1 doubled up with "The Machine" at 7/1 for the Arkle and am hoping a return to Cheltenham will show him in his true light.

    #392717
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    Bob’s Worth apparently had his first gallop since the wind op last Saturday. Apparently.

    #392730
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    Bobs Worth will come on a tonne for that run, having a minor op and not working hardly at all was hardly an ideal preparation but he ran an OK race, still not 100% convinced by his jumping but he is the one for me in the RSA, he will be staying on hand over fist when the rest cry enough :D

    #392731
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    What race would they have ran him in at Newbury????

    Who cares what race Bobs Worth goes for as his prep? Henderson often uses the Reynooldstown for his rsa choice so it is a good sign.

    I am personally holding on to the hope that the left handed form shows him to be a lot better because on the right handed effort he was not winning an RSA.

    Ok Bobs Worth has course form- over hurdles, he still needs to brush up his jumping, those fences will kill him in the rsa. All we know is he has stamina, an smart 3 mile engine, placed in two good trials and his best form is left handed.

    We don’t know if his jumping will improve and that is my chief concern.

    The race is not looking all that deep in terms of quality. 6-1 is too big for Bobs Worth. Should be 4s.

    #392739
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    I’m amazed that Nicky Henderson said Bobs Worth was his most pleasing result over the weekend.
    He clearly does not like going right handed, the stable said this after kempton, so why run him that way he could have run at Newbury. It reminds me of Paul Nicholls running Denman at Aintree when he knew the horse couldn’t act round there.
    If Bobs Worth ran to form on Saturday then Grands Crus ain’t gonna win.
    Aparrantly the horse had a problem prior to Saturday which NH failed yet again to tell the punters, but the stable obviously knew resulting in him being drifting in the betting.
    I’ve got him at 8/1 doubled up with "The Machine" at 7/1 for the Arkle and am hoping a return to Cheltenham will show him in his true light.

    Chablais runs at Kempton and wins but jumps violently left handed throughout and Henderson says he’s likely to go right handed next.

    He then runs at Ascot.

    #392769
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    If Grands Crus does go the RSA route he has to overcome quite a significant stat. The previous 48 winners have all had a race in the same calendar year.

    Time For Rupert went off 7/4 last year but hadn’t run since 11.12.10, again upholding this trend.

    I’m not one to follow trends over a cliff but a prep run does look to be crucial in this as in most festival races.

    I’m starting to lean more & more towards Bobsworth, as GDC says can see him staying on past the rest up the hill.

    #392771
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    Have to say i was surprised by the drastic push out of his price to 7-1. Then in to 6-1 but even that seems a decent price. I want to be against Grands Crus.

    Along with the stat about prep run he is also Feltham winner, they have a shocking record.

    Invictus has to have a chance after saturday. One thing I would say is be wary of a stable like Kings when all his horses are running out of their skin. It tends to be lifetime best material and hard to reproduce, my theory is that he was geared totally to win the reynoldstown. 12-1 is still a nice price but the 50/1 a la Zarkava is all gone.

    First L, also not had a prep run so can take him on on this stat. last Instalment was a genuine contender but now gone.

    Silviniaco is inconsistent and have to be against. Besides I think he will be better off in 2m4 personally and may be more suited to aintree.

    All the horses below these guys are not good enough, champion court would have a shout with course form but is jewson bound.

    Bog Warrior is one to be on if he comes over but he won’t. Sir Des will be interesting if taking his chance but the age, french, no form over 3miles would all be massive negatives.

    Bobs Worth at 6-1 really is looking a solid ew shout Might well increase and take a small saver at the 12s on invictus.

    #394490
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    With Kauto a doubt, Grand Crus will probably end up going for Gold. That screws up my ante post on him, so I need something to cover the bet. Bob’s Worth is too short considering what he’s achieved over fences, Sir Des Champs will hopefully be going Jewson, First Lieutenant is also too short judged on his chase form.

    This leaves Invictus and Join Together. Join Together hasn’t run this year, which is a vital stat in this race. Invictus has, and also was rated less than 135 as a hurdler, which is also vital. Plus, connections will be chasing the 60k Plumpton bonus, so they’ll not be messing about sending him for this.

    Invictus it is, 9/1.

    #395133
    GDC
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    All of a sudden the RSA is getting to be looking like a rather good race again!

    Whether Grand Crus runs here or more likely the Gold Cup doesn’t matter!!

    With Bobs Worth, First Lieutenant, Invictus and Sir des Champs all running we have a good event!

    Personally I have written off Grand Crus, Bobs Worth doesn’t appear to be the same horse, Invictus is interesting and chasing a £100,000 bonus but surely the race revolves around the Gigginstown pair :-)

    #395137
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    He’s not chasing a £100k bonus. He’d be chasing a £60k bonus if he ran in the Jewson.

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