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“How would you control foxes then, TTC?”.
Who says they require ‘controlling’? If by controlling, you mean pursued until exhausted and ripped apart by hounds, I wouldn’t. Set of tally-ho tossers, what sort of a pathetic hobby was that anyway, before it was rightly outlawed.
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Who says they require ‘controlling’?
Am not particularly for or against fox hunting (if it were legal); but I do think people who are against foxhunting should have an alternative method of controlling in mind.Foxes can do a lot of damage and therefore some need controlling.
Value Is EverythingWhat do horse names and fox hunting have to do with ITV Racing anyway?
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No finer sight or sound…
“What do horse names and fox hunting have to do with ITV Racing anyway?”.
Terrific stuff, that will encourage people to post on the site.
“Am not particularly for or against fox hunting (if it were legal); but I do think people who are against foxhunting should have an alternative method of controlling in mind. Foxes can do a lot of damage and therefore some need controlling.”
Humans do far more “damage” to the planet. Perhaps we should “control” the human race.
Tank – that could well be the most pretentious thing I’ve seen this year. Nauseating fare.
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When topics go so far off topic it can actually put people off posting, TTC; but I’ll continue for now unless we have an intervention…
Humans do far more “damage” to the planet. Perhaps we should “control” the human race.
Are you really putting that forward as a reason to do nothing?
Perhaps we should let rats multiply and take over towns and cities, because “humans do far more damage to the planet”? Cockroaches and wasps should be left to do their worst?Value Is EverythingI am against the illegal and cruel ‘pursuit’ of Foxhunting. I am against Waterboarding and other illegal torture interrogation methods too.
I don’t really think I have to set out “alternative” methods of anything to justify my position.
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Fair enough, you don’t “have to set out an alternative method”, TTC.
Would’ve just helped so I could take you seriously, that’s all.Can imagine you on a protest march (about anything), then when a journalist asks what you want to see in its place? You say “Ummmm, I don’t know, haven’t thought that far”.
That said, good that you’re interested in the welfare of animals.
Value Is EverythingThe claim that foxhunting is to control populations has been repeatedly discredited. The hunt lobby itself alternatively maintains that “the fox usually gets away” & cites the “conservation benefits” of creating areas to nurture fox populations so they can be hunted. Rural foxes largely manage their own populations (it’s a hard life) based on food supply. Unless you are a free-range poultry farmer, it’s likely that the impact of foxes is more positive than negative due to the large numbers of rodents they consume. When foxes become a problem it is usually youngsters driven out of their territories (which is why hunting often makes the problem worse by dispersing them even further). Many of these die anyway (roads & starvation). Sheep farmer I know says he generally has no problems but, if he does find one hanging around, he gets his gun and shoots it. He does not alert the local hunt and get them to chase it over his land, disrupting his work and putting livestock and domestic pets at risk.
My main issue, however, is that it is illegal and I am sickened that any law-breakers are permitted to carry on with impunity, and often with actual support of enforcement agencies.
I’m not overly fond of cockroaches, but rats are amazing and we have wasps living all over our house with no issues. Each to their own.
To keep it relevant, I’d sooner spend the day with one of these than in the social stable: https://www.apopo.org/en/herorats
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ITV do a good job for a free racing channel. Not a fan of the Social Stable, so that’s a good time to put the kettle on.
Fox hunting wouldn’t be a the one and only control, Tonge; You’d of course need others too. But it was A form of control and there is a question of whether it is any worse than others.
Owners of farms / land aren’t always the best of shots; a fox can easily be injured and die a long and painful death.I was against hunting until my grandfather told me of when he saw a fox running off with a chicken; but not before killing every chicken in the run. The last of whom ran up the path to greet him – headless.
Was for it but now ambivalent.
When most people in the countryside kept livestock (pig and chickens in the back garden) there was less sympathy for the fox.
One thing I do agree with TTC – for the good of the sport – Racing should be Flat and “Jump”, not National Hunt.
Value Is Everything“Would’ve just helped so I could take you seriously, that’s all. Can imagine you on a protest march (about anything), then when a journalist asks what you want to see in its place? You say “Ummmm, I don’t know, haven’t thought that far”.
Ridiculous, patronising post. You are arse about face. Foxhunting is illegal, as it is cruel and immoral. If anyone has to go on a protest, and explain their reasons, its the blood-thirsty pro-hunting brigade. Not the folk who abide by, and agree, with the law.
You are as bad – you have cleverly stated you are neither pro nor against hunting however so I cannot call you pro-hunting. Not being ‘against’ animal cruelty is just as bad however. Could you explain why you would not be against fox hunting being legal?
Respectfully suggest you read ‘Tonge’s post before you educate us all with why you have no problem with this barbarism.
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Ginger 1/3 to get the last word in..
I agree with Tank as annoying as ITV can be they do a decent enough job on the whole and most would miss it if they packed it in, I know I would especially the big meetings. I tend to stick on RUK or whatever they call it at the weekend but do like to watch the big midweek meetings on ITV
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Could you explain why you would not be against fox hunting being legal?
Respectfully suggest you read ‘Tonge’s post before you educate us all with why you have no problem with this barbarism.
Eh?
Do you want me to explain or not?…And am not against or for fox hunting being legal; I am ambivalent – can see both sides.
You do realise those hostile words you throw at me are the very words thrown at you, me and everyone on here for being pro racing?
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