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Shutter Speed runs but Gosden doesn’t seem overly enthused about it and did mention that if he did pull out the race would be ruined because of it
Shutter Speed runs but Gosden doesn’t seem overly enthused about it and did mention that if he did pull out the race would be ruined because of it
Well there is an excuse there if she flops. If she can win on this ground, surely she must be near enough stamina laden to get home at Epsom on good going?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The way Shutter Speed gallops (a little knee action) she looks suited to some give in the ground, problem will be getting her to settle if they go another 2F – Frankie says its proper soft and she didn’t like it and that 10F is ideal trip but going to France will likely mean more soft ground.
Gosden just said she goes to France
He said a few days ago that Shutter Speed wouldn’t go further than 10F. If she had won 20 lengths today it wouldn’t have made any difference to their plan.
That was a crap Musidora in all honesty and I can’t recall so much negativity going into a race in a long time. After all the doom and gloom, she won easily and I can’t say she looked tired. The chances are that, Rhododendron aside, there will be a lot of dross at Epsom for the Oaks and there is a good chance Shutter Speed would have stayed well enough to win it on faster ground.
I hope Rhododendron runs and pisses up in the Oaks.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Barry Orr from betfair straight away cut shutter speed to 9/4 for the Oak and spouted on RUK that their ‘traders’ are certain she’d run at Epsom after that performance. Then not 5 minutes later Gosden says she’ll be running in the Dianne and no Oaks.
The pure amount of arse gravy these bookie reps are aloud to spit out on TV is laughable.
Have a felling the same connections will still win the race with Enable who is nailed on to stay and impressed me with her attitude at Chester (a course that would not have suited her).
Barry Orr from betfair straight away cut shutter speed to 9/4 for the Oak and spouted on RUK that their ‘traders’ are certain she’d run at Epsom after that performance. Then not 5 minutes later Gosden says she’ll be running in the Dianne and no Oaks.
The pure amount of arse gravy these bookie reps are aloud to spit out on TV is laughable.
Gosden made his mind up ages ago. Today’s race was purely going through the motions.
On one hand you could have said that a trainer with a truly open mind may have gone away and pondered it over night, thus making it possible for bookmakers to keep her in the betting on a “with a run” basis. On the other hand bookies should already have known that Gosden was never running the filly, even if she had won 10 lengths hard held today.
The Epsom Classics are being shunned casually. Second graders are going there and this looks like yet another shitty Oaks this year and potentially a pure crap Derby.
Last year’s Derby looked Group 2 to me and this year’s is at least as bad.
Hardly worth tuning in for that dross. I’ll be focusing on the French Races myself.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The unlucky 1000 Guineas runner-up is going to take on two impressive trial winners (Enable and Horseplay) in the Oaks and people aren’t happy?
I get the sense that a few were on Shutter Spead for Epsom at attractive prices and are now a bit peeved that she’s not going to turn up.
Thought the winner was very impressive. Should go for the Oaks really, I think she’d walk it, she’ll stay a mile and a half standing on her head and I think she’ll take very high standing amongst middle distance three year olds by the end of the year.
I can see why you are infuriated Steve, in a sense you are unlucky, if they didn’t have Enable they would run her of course and I think they are making a mistake anyway because I think Shutter Speed is the better horse. Although maybe this is also a tip for Enable if Shutter speed is this good and they’re still not sending her there.
I can see why you are infuriated Steve, in a sense you are unlucky, if they didn’t have Enable they would run her of course and I think they are making a mistake anyway because I think Shutter Speed is the better horse. Although maybe this is also a tip for Enable if Shutter speed is this good and they’re still not sending her there.
Or, Gosden is certain that SS will not stay 12 furlongs
Dansili, despite being a sprinter, has produced mostly middle distance horses,classy Arc winning horses.
But the mother, she did not stay, SS’ sibling did not stay, and the only decent middle distance progeny of Oasis Dream, the dam sire , was Midday, and her best trip was 9-10 furlongs
I think Judge is right that they would run in the Oaks if it weren’t for Enable. To be fair to JG, he hasn’t kept us guessing, he has told us right away. It’s too late for me but at least others won’t waste their cash.
Would she stay? On the evidence of today I would say, yes. Her breeding might give mixed messages but Dansili was of course a miler not a sprinter and Midday was an unlucky runner up in the Oaks and won the Yorkshire Oaks and Prix Vermeille over 12f and never ran over 9f. I think she would have enough class to win and I hope they don’t end up regretting it if it turns into a bog in France.
Anyway, she is clearly a high-class filly and should be followed wherever she ends up going. I’ll just have to lump on for The Champion!
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The unlucky 1000 Guineas runner-up is going to take on two impressive trial winners (Enable and Horseplay) in the Oaks and people aren’t happy?
I get the sense that a few were on Shutter Spead for Epsom at attractive prices and are now a bit peeved that she’s not going to turn up.
It’s not about the money Charles. Yes, I was on at 16/1 but I tend to have plenty non-runners at big odds ante-post. That’s part and parcel of the game. I have had 25/1 shots ante-post who turned up at 13/8 and 6/4 for their Classic and run like drains. It’s not even about getting a run for me. I always accept that it’s still more liely they won’t win it anyway.
I am not so enthused about this Oaks, but each to their own. I like to see good renewals of the Classics and the BEST horses taking part. We aren’t getting that.
The saddest part for me, is that Shutter Speed looks likely to have got the trip at Epsom based on the visual evidence. I felt the same about Minding last year. Both Fillies got a mile at two years old and Aidan took Minding to the Oaks and won it yet never ran her at 12F again. I feel you can get away with it at Epsom on good ground or faster.
Now we will never know.
I don’t think it was a great Cheshire Oaks. Alluringly wouldn’t be anywhere near Aiden’s best fillies. The trial has little impact on the Oaks generally speaking.
I am not enamoured by Horseplay. That was a poor Pretty Polly she won. The filly is rated 100 but that seems very generous given that she beat a filly rated 80 last time. Miss Infinity, who was rated 101 in that race was utterly rubbish in the Musidora, beaten 27 lengths by a filly who hated the ground.
I wouldn’t touch Horseplay with the proverbial bargepole.
I find the notion that Enable is only 1 lb inferior to Shutter Speed to be utter nonsense myself and the fact is that only Rhododendron and Shutter Speed looked like proper Oaks class fillies this season. We won’t see them meet at Epsom and that’s the disappointing thing for me. For all the money I punt, it’s not important to me anyway. I want to see top class racing.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Aljezeera finally makes it to the racecourse on Saturday at Newbury against Gosden’s Gracious Diana, hopefully, a good performance will see her make the Oaks line up.
I hope you don’t think I was ‘having a go’ Steve, I wasn’t, I was just making an assumption.
I do think it’s unfair to start dismissing The Oaks as being a poor race. After all the favourite is a very good horse who might well have won the Guineas with a clear run.
As for the trial winners I think only time will tell, you say Horseplay won a poor Pretty Polly but I remember Talent winning what was called a poor Pretty Polly before winning The Oaks and finishing 2nd to a subsequent Gold Cup winner in the St Leger. Look Here was beaten at Lingfield before proving herself in the Oaks and even Snow Fairy was dismissed going to Epsom because she didn’t beat much in her trial and I lost count of how many Group 1’s she won!
Aljezeera finally makes it to the racecourse on Saturday at Newbury against Gosden’s Gracious Diana, hopefully, a good performance will see her make the Oaks line up.
Do you not think it might be a bit too close to Epsom to run her? Im not saying dont send her but might be a bit tight trying to prep her to run in the big race.
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