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- May 21, 2019 at 13:46 #1439917
AVD now taken out of most bookmakers lists.
Value Is EverythingMay 21, 2019 at 16:23 #1439923Is he? No?
May 21, 2019 at 21:44 #1439942Just had a quick look at the betting. Not many horses in it and, of those that are 2 of them have to be supplemented. Are there less than usual? Was going to have a small ew on Bangkok; how bitter sweet it would be should he win.
May 22, 2019 at 09:05 #1439962It could be the smallest field in a long time moehat yes as I expect a few out of those 18 to come out by Monday.
May 23, 2019 at 10:06 #1440199The gap between Broome and AVD is widening on Betfair now. 6s and 8.2. Could that mean Broome is looking the ballydoyle number 1? Hmmm Ryan Moore is going to be on the wrong horse again?! (Maybe!)
May 27, 2019 at 06:55 #1441870It looks like Telecaster will run based on the exchanges shortening over the weekend? Anyone hear anything? Last chance to get any 7/1 I think now
May 27, 2019 at 07:34 #1441872Frenchy, as a Telecaster backer I sincerely hope you are right.
I’m not convinced though.
May 27, 2019 at 09:27 #1441875What still puts me off him a bit is why they don’t seem more positive about him and why they leave the decision until the final few hours? Surely if they were confident they would have made the decision already? Seems to be such a big secret!
May 27, 2019 at 10:15 #1441876They have said it’s to give the horse every chance to recover Frenchy, afterall it’s only 11 days since he last raced!
The Derby is an awful betting heat IMO as this stage- i won’t be touching anything until the day and we see wht the markets like- right now it’s very congested. Japan at 10s just shows that.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 27, 2019 at 10:18 #1441878If I was forking out 85 grand, I’d leave it till the last possible moment in case the horse developed a problem that stopped him running altogether
May 27, 2019 at 12:33 #1441974Sir Dragonet & Telecaster both supplemented!
May 28, 2019 at 19:20 #1443472great info learning lots! race is soon. keep up the updates and chatter
May 28, 2019 at 20:02 #1443473I don’t play this race, but I wish Telecaster well
Hopefully with the great Oisin Murphy again.May 29, 2019 at 00:52 #1443479I’ve had some on Telecaster now. I’m happy to go with the delay in confirming was down to wanting to give him one last run on Monday morning and give him every time to recover. Makes sense. I do worry about him at epsom though and how he will take to the big occasion, plus still not convinced on that Dante form. That said he should improve for the step up being out of a derby winner and oaks second so I cannot let him go without a bet.
My big win is still AVD and I might go in again once he’s confirmed and he should probably drift out to 8s again.
Sir Dragonet looks to be the ballydoyle number 1 and I really hope I don’t Kick myself for this but I probably will be completely against him on Saturday. There must be some element of doubt about him on sound surface despite them saying it won’t be an issue. Otherwise why even entertain all this Chantilly conversation in the first place. There seems to be no other logical explanation to have dropped him back down to 10f unless they were looking at the going. Question is will epsom be Good or Good to Firm? If it’s GF I’ll be against him for sure.
Also for whatever the reasons that first 6F at Chester was bad. The commentator was almost mocking him, now he’s a derby winner? Not convinced. He surely can’t do that again at Epsom otherswise he will get into an awful position and not be able to recover. Possibly he could only recover at Chester because he was running against poor horses.
That then leads onto Broome. Surely if they were confident on Broome they’d take Sir D to Chantilly where the going will be slower than Epsom that looks pretty guaranteed now. Broome looks workmanlike to me but he should improve for the step up in trip being out of Australia and for that reason I’m very cautious to discount him.
However I’m leaning to completely discounting both now.
I’m against Surfman and Madhmoon as I don’t think they’ll stay and/or be good enough.
Bangkok, Japan and Cape of Good Hope I’m already On anti post at 33s,25s & 40s. Line of duty won’t run I think.
So a bit on Telecaster now but likely to go in again on Thursday for AVD once confirmed.
It almost sounds like fate to me…Van Dyke to win the derby and Van Dyke to win the Champions League to round off an awesome day!
May 29, 2019 at 20:50 #1443534Not looking too good for Anthony Van Dyck judged by the exchanges tonight. Possibly off to France
May 30, 2019 at 06:34 #1443559FFS!
May 30, 2019 at 06:36 #1443560Can’t cash out either
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