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Charlie Appleby reported horse short behind after cooling down after a piece of work, is now under care of their vet
Thanks NW! That’s a shame.
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That is a shame ‘n’ I was just about to put him in the AP contest for the Derby at 20/1.
Like Joni I really like Ghaiyyath, caught my eye in the pre-parade at Newmarket last year before he went out and ran away with the race from Proschema. Really imposing colt hope he’s back soon.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...So Ireland’s principle Derby trial has been run now and I must say I was left a little bit disappointed. Nelson faded tamely and neither The Pentagon nor Delano managed to show any sort of kick good enough to show they’re capable of winning at the highest level. I see no reason why Hazapour shouldn’t go to Epsom but as for the Coolmore trio; I think the Edward VII beckons.
Saxon Warrior will remain the firmest of favourites after that.
This is in Saxon Warriors hands after all three of O’Brien’s were beaten in the Derrinstown.
Delano Roosevelt did best of the Ballydoyle big guns (I backed him at 5/1 today grrrrr) but they could not cope with Hazapour, who came in rated 95 and went off 16/1.
I have felt for a while that Nelson was best with cut in the ground but even allowing for that he was poor today, Delano Roosevelt readily reversing the form from their previous clash.
The Pentagon has always been a horse I was concerned about staying the mile and a half and it looked like he tired late in the Derrinstown.
Plenty questions for O’Brien’s team outside of Saxon Warrior now. I’d have Saxon Warrior 4/6 for the Derby now.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
but as for the Coolmore trio; I think the Edward VII beckons.
Go steady Charles, it was only this time last year that Wings of Eagles was finishing second to Venice Beach.
but as for the Coolmore trio; I think the Edward VII beckons.
Go steady Charles, it was only this time last year that Wings of Eagles was finishing second to Venice Beach.
There was no Saxon Warrior in last year’s race though Botchy.
The burst Saxon Warrior showed in the Guineas more or less sealed the race at Newmarket and the jockey felt he had gone too soon in the end.
At Epsom, he will surely be played late and either failing badly to stay, or not keeping him close enough to the pace a la Dancing Brave can surely stop the only real class horse in the race from scoring. I hope for quality reasons that Saxon Warrior sweeps clear to win five lengths and earn 130+ on ratings.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The Derby.
Derrinstown was a good race and the winner won it well but I think the ballydoyle three are a bit like last years trio (Douglas MacArthur etc) that they’re much of a muchness and May struggle to win anything above G3 level. Weld horse doesn’t do much for me in terms of this race but then Harzand never did and he won both Derby’s!
Saxon should definitely be 4/6 and I can’t wait to see him in the flesh at Epsom.
Sorry, I thought it was obvious it was The Derby I was referring to.
Wings Of Eagles was a fortuitous winner, in that Cracksman wasn’t far enough forward and Cliffs Of Moher was generally disappointing overall. Eminent did win in France when the French jockeys generally decided to wait until it was far too late to ask for some effort. I think if the race were run in the Autumn the result would have been very different.
This season we have a Guineas winner aimed at the race and we saw an impressive winner at Newmarket. He’s entitled to come forward from the race and he can clearly be held up for a late challenge. I hope Donnacha gets the ride, I feel he’s earned it after Moore went to Kentucky to be fascinated. He certainly got a lovely view of horses rear ends
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Am on HAZARPOUR at 14/1 and DEE EX BEE at 33/1 mostly because I think these two will definitely stay and definitely turn up barring injury which probably means they will be shorter come the day.
I backed Saxon warrior in the Guineas but I am not at all convinced he will get the trip in the Derby and to be honest the rest of AOB’s have all looked much of a muchness.
An outsider to maybe consider before Thursday is WELLS FHARGO at 50/1 cos if it goes and wins the Dante (which he may) then he won’t be anything like that price!!
Starting to top up my Young Rascal bet at 20s and 16s now at 12/1.
I’d have him clear second favourite at this point tbh.
The challengers are waining for Saxon Warrior.
It is starting to look a very Derby of poor quality.
None of the trials really screamed “Derby Winner”.
If you take an exact form line from Young Rascal, with Flag of Honour and Hunting Horn…he’s slightly ahead of Hazapour…but that’s a dangerous assumption. Hazapour was in a yard that clearly was very under the weather last year, and if that run wasn’t a fluke, he really has improved his form.
Young Rascal to be fair to him was very impressive too.
Other than that?
A case might be made for Delano Roosevelt, he often looks like he needs a bit further and to be fair, his pedigree would echo that. However, for me, the times i’ve watched him, i’ve wondered is he one of those, who shapes as if he is an eyecatcher, but won’t win very often.
Knight to Behold? Good run from the front, hard to replicate that in a Derby for me. Kew Gardens is clearly a fair bit off of APOBs main string. He could go underestimated, but i probably would be surprised if he won.
Trying to find something to take Saxon Warrior on with is currently impossible for me.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I liked Study of Man in this race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCQOabNEwUw
A slowly run race turned into a sprint finish, but he’s gone through it well and then looked green when in front. Receives a tap and knuckles down all the way to the line. On breeding you would think the French Derby is a better fit for him, but he’s by Deep Impact who seems to have a strong stamina influence. He’s not actually entered for the French Classic but is for this, and given how his owners ran Ulysses in this when Stoute didn’t want to, you’d have to think he’s likely to turn up here. 25/1 looks massive compared to some of those in here!
Knight To Behold has shown, throughout all his races, that he’s a dogged fighter who never backs down. This is a great quality to possess and I pretty much suspect that the undulations of Epsom won’t bother him. Hope he learns to settle better though and I can see him throwing down the gauntlet cometh the day.
Young Rascal is very similar to Knight To Behold in terms of tenacity regarding his Chester win. However, he looks more of a solid, each-way prospect than a Derby winner.
Saxon Warrior reminds me a lot of Sea The Stars … a big horse with a tank-like hardness and a supreme battler. Daunting and deadly. Almost impossible to oppose. Only a horse with a freaky turn of foot may be able to take him out but it’s very hard to envisage. This one could be the champion that Aidan O’brien has yearned for.
Degaussed that’s interesting didn’t realise he wasnt entered for the FR version!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!@Jackh1092 – neither did I, but in Timeform’s review of his performance they mention he needs supplementing:
(by Deep Impact: brother to useful 1m (at 2 yrs in France) and US 8.5f/9f winner Tale of Life (by Deep Impact), and half-brother to 2 winners, including 7f-1¼m winner (2-y-o 1m winner) Mambo Nephew (by Bago): dam ran 3 times in France, half-sister to high-class miler Kingmambo out of outstanding miler Miesque), upped in trip, settled this slowly-run race with a decisive turn of foot in a small field, putting up a smart performance; led, headed after 4f, quickened to lead again under 2f out, went clear 1f out, driven out; connections now have the option of choosing between the Prix du Jockey Club (for which he needs supplementing) and the Epsom Derby (for which he was priced at as short as 16/1 afterwards).
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