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I would never question Fallon’s ability in the saddle. He is undoubtedly very good.
However, I don’t like media-driven bum lucking and glee which has greeted his return to racing. For me, it is well over the top and fundamentally inappropriate.
who’s this ‘we’ b*****ks
?you are entitled to your own opinions and may judge whoever you wish however you wish but don’t tell me how i should judge people any more than tell me what opinions i should have<br>
sorry, double post – this new windows vista hangs just like xp did :(
(Edited by sberry at 5:37 pm on June 8, 2007)
If memory serves me correct Stoute was not delighted to see Fallon leave (when after all he could go to the next AVAILABLE lad and no doubt get another of equal tallent.)<br>Stoute was so good at training older horses one wonders where the derby winners ridden by Fallon went?
Dear non vintage <br>Does the same apply to the recent Frankie and Henry BL and glee?
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Quote: from non vintage on 5:30 pm on June 8, 2007[br]I would never question Fallon’s ability in the saddle. He is undoubtedly very good.
However, I don’t like media-driven bum lucking and glee which has greeted his return to racing. For me, it is well over the top and fundamentally inappropriate.<br>
nv<br>Undoubtedly, they just think he is very good too?:)
Dear andyod,
Of the two people you mentioned, neither has (to my knowledge) been accused of corruption and only one has been connected with the white stuff. Both have been recently involved in winning a classic.
It is an unfair comparison.
That said, I have more time for Cecil than either of the jockeys mentioned, and didn’t begrudge him a headline or two in the racing press.
The Frankie thing was inevitable given the pre-race hype, but was still pretty full on.
Yours sincerely,<br>nv
Dear non vintage<br>The elder one was accused of corruption in connection with buying horses and asking for extra payments for his jockey.<br>Of course the jockey took the fall.Lets not go any further into his history of drunk driving etc.<br>Most jockeys have suffer from substance abuse if you read the history of the great jockeys.
Dear andyod,
Absolutely. And if they return successfully from a ban, they should be reported as having done as such. It doesn’t have to be with whistles and bells though.
If (well, when really) Fallon wins a big race, he will deserve to grab some column inches and to have his mugshot in colour alongside.
Fallon’s return from a drugs ban with a narrow win in a minor race is NOT (imho) worthy of hero-worship.
Kind regards,<br>nv
Not just in reference to Fallons return but more in general I find that our racing media often give jockeys OTT praise when its obvious to a blind man without his stick that anyone of the top jockeys could have landed the race on what was obviously a superior horse.
My feeling is that truly great jockeys are those that make the fewest mistakes and whom occasionally conjure a performance which the horse subsquently does not quite seem to reproduce – usually by judging the pace to perfection when lesser jockeys are following the herd.
IMHO Cauthen has to be the best I have seen on either count. Piggot would not be far behind. Just occasionally Dettori shows equisite pace judgement to nick races which leave you wondering whether that horse should have one ( Sharmadal, Lawmen etc) but he is prone to a normal error quotient.
Carson made fewer mistakes than most but I cannot remember him winning a race that perhaps he should not.
Apart from Bosra Sham Fallon does not appear to make many mistakes and is obviously a very very good jockey but can anyone recall a race that he seems to have nicked?. Since he rarely sets the pace even when the race is being very slowly run I cannot recall one. Interestingly in France – where races are not usually as truly run as ours – Dettori is almost universally regarded as superior because of his judgement of pace.
<br>Sorry post wasn’t worth one time let alone 3! – broadband dropping in/out
(Edited by Galejade at 10:48 pm on June 8, 2007)
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and i was bothered by my double post – time for some defragging corm, the site is going slower than a horse being stopped
Quote: from sberry on 10:15 pm on June 8, 2007[br]:biggrin:
and i was bothered by my double post – time for some defragging corm, the site is going slower than a horse being stopped<br>
And I thought some virus was after sneeking into my hard drive.
"you should defragment this volume"
Apart from Bosra Sham Fallon does not appear to make many mistakes and is obviously a very very good jockey but can anyone recall a race that he seems to have nicked?
Yeats in the Coronation Cup?
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