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- June 1, 2024 at 16:54 #1696593
What’s with all the negativity? Fabulous training and riding performance and let’s wait for a few months down the line to see if this was a poor renewal.
June 1, 2024 at 16:57 #1696596So we know he will need a G1 10F race on his CV but will they want to also get a mile G1 on it as well for breeding purposes?
His best Derby horse
well he would say that wouldn’t he for the breeding purposes (will make a good tag line on the brochure) but has he really had a real outstanding one previously?June 1, 2024 at 16:57 #1696597CAS why wouldn’t they take him on , he travelled better than the winner and prob has a better turn of foot , on better ground he could have every chance of reversing the form
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June 1, 2024 at 16:58 #1696598I suspect it was a good Derby. The way Ambiente Friendly was cantering turning for home, I reckon he would have won in most years.
June 1, 2024 at 17:00 #1696600What a magnificent ride Ryan Moore gave City Of Troy. That’s one
of the best Derby’s I’ve seen no matter who the opposition was.
3/1 was a gift, my double was down with Rubies Are Red but I didn’t
miss him this time. Well done to all that kepf faith with him.June 1, 2024 at 17:02 #1696601Does it have to be a very good crop considering that the top class 10-12F older horse brigade look more than a little thin on the ground to provide that challenge when the generations clash.
June 1, 2024 at 17:03 #1696602City If Troy beat the right horses imo in 2nd and 3rd. I dont think it was that bad a race. AOB fair play he said he would get COT back.
June 1, 2024 at 17:05 #1696604Aidan genius
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
June 1, 2024 at 17:06 #1696605HDLG, I think a drop in distance might suit him. He was taking a bit of a grip early on. He ran a great race but I am not convinced he can reverse the form.
June 1, 2024 at 17:06 #1696606I wonder if connections of the runner-up wish they had stuck with Shepherd? Surely he would have kicked on when the horse tanked up to the leaders; instead, Havlin waited and Moore got first run on him n
June 1, 2024 at 17:07 #1696607No negatives from me just happy to see we have a champion 3yo to look forward too and follow this year and what a ride Havlin gave Ambiente Friendly..the Gosden’s must be mad not to use him more often.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...June 1, 2024 at 17:09 #1696608Just seen your Post Glad re Shepherd.
I thought Havlin rode a good race on AF.
Have to have another look now.
Do you think the loose horse made the jockeys more cautious?Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...June 1, 2024 at 17:11 #1696609“It’s possible that Mr Hampstead could be the last Galileo to run in a Derby.”
That is unfortunate. At Chester he looked so slow, he would struggle to win the Queen Alexandra.”
Given how far behind he finished, he would struggle to win a Queen Alexandra where they have to go around again.
June 1, 2024 at 17:11 #16966103 words. Breeders Cup Classic.
10/1
It’s the one he really, really, really wants.
June 1, 2024 at 17:13 #1696611Havlin should have reacted quicker to Moore’s move but I don’t think he would have won.
June 1, 2024 at 17:13 #1696612Not been many this season, but finally a day for the cheerleaders to come out of hiding.
The first winning favourite of the meeting. City Of Troy won very easily under what looked a pretty ordinary ride. Such was his superiority you have to think pretty much anyone would have won on him. We can go on about how he ran through the line, but the real value of the performance will be determined by what happens to the second and third. Are they proper Group 1 horses, or Group 2/Group 3 material? As I said before the race the middle distance cupboard looks relatively bare, and without checking I am guessing that City Of Troy will have been cut to unbackable prices for all the major events.
If O’Brien is a ‘genius’ for getting this right then surely he’s the exact opposite for making a complete horlicks of the Guineas?
June 1, 2024 at 17:14 #1696613I’ll have no issues taken on COT , the second has every chance of reversing the form on good ground in my eyes , I really hope they go again
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