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    Bristol De Mai has been priced up a short-price jolly here but surely has to be taken on. This won’t be run in heavy conditions around haydock and he hasn’t shown anything like the same affinity for Cheltenham that he has for flatter tracks. he also has questions to answer after a poor run last time.

    The Last Samurai is solid but you’d fancy him to find one or two too quick while Definitely Red seems just short of top class.

    American also has questions to answer like the favourite, but unlike him you’re getting 7-1 to find out. Perhaps he just had an off day last time out and didn’t get into a rhythm. Perhaps he didn’t take to Newbury. Trainer seems in form so it’s American for me. :good:

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    Looks a weak renewal in my opinion.

    As I took the 33s before the Betfair Chase for BDM for the gold cup, I suppose it’ll be good to see him run a big one at Cheltenham here.

    Be good to see Coneygree Run well too.

    Doesn’t look a betting race to me though.

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    This is going to be a brutal test. I’d say The Last Samuri is a rock solid EW bet at 8/1. You wouldn’t trust Coneygree or American at this point and perhaps the Bristol/Coney/others pace war will help him to pick up the pieces.

    Obviously BDM will be solid in the conditions but you do need to be a rock hard stayer to win this race: Master Oats, See More Business, Behrajan, Jair Du Cochet, Many Clouds etc. I’d like to have TLS on my side.

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    With the stayer angle in mind I like Definitly Red e/w here at 8s.

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    I know he has an entry in The Handicap on the same card, but happy to chance Singlefarmpayment ew 3 places at the 50’s. Completely different horse at the track. Not going mad with that other engagement, but thought it worth a pop. Theatre Guide at 33’s looks equally appealing same terms.

    #1338787
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    If it comes up soft then I cannot see Bristol De Mai getting beat.

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    Past 5 runnings have been soft(2) or heavy(3).

    A brutal race indeed and I was hoping Twister would resist it with Bristol De Mai who will surely leave his Gold Cup chance here in the mud as so many have done.

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    Think they feel they have something to prove with Bristol De Mai running in this one, if he can’t beat this field then his Gold Cup dreams are over

    Ulcers permitting I think he will win and win it well.
    The Gold Cup beckons and Bristol De Mai has to run the race of his life. I’m hoping he does…Jac :rose:

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
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    American was 7/1 earlier. I was absolutely floored at that price, having him much closer to 5/2 personally. Snatched it up straight away.

    #1339083
    ham
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    Coneygree out because of the ground

    #1339095
    TommyNag
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    No surprise there Ham.

    I really do find the Bradstocks quite unbearable and think they have somehwat ruined the horse.

    I am all over American in this race, agree with the poster above, seems far too big.

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    In the end, I’ve thrown the favourite in my multiples for interest.

    Just can’t see him running as bad as he did last time as he will get his ground.

    This’ll be a gruelling test.

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    With you all the way MOM… :good: :good:
    Good luck..Come on BDM.
    Jac
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    Sorry to tell you Bobby Mrsraymo has backed Singlefarmpayment and I have had an interest bet on Theatre Guide!!

    So bang goes your two picks LOL
    I hope I am wrong but I think there are two runners in this BDN and T42 and at the prices had to back T42 at 8/1 e/w only to small stakes cos it is a race to watch and not get heavily involved in.

    I think my Might Bite will be tucked up in his box watching this lot and not exactly worrying LOL

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    I’ve backed two here much to my disgust as I’m usually just a single player in these types but I both love American and am a big fan of Definitely Red for this.

    I think both have the class in the book to beat the favourite here and stake a claim in the Gold Cup.

    Definitely Red 13/2
    American 5/1

    #1339362
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    American should improve a bit and rates the danger but would still have about a stone to find with Bristol De Mai who I think can run as well here on Heavy as at Haydock. Don’t fully trust the horse and concerned re stableform but BDM can be a fair bit below his best and still win. Not worth the risk of a bet at the price though.

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    LD73
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    Surely they can be no excuses this time for BDM as ground now changed to soft (heavy in places) and Geraghty said after the first race it will likely turn to heavy later in the day.

    Definitely Red and American are the likely dangers given the ground but if BDM has any pretensions to being Gold Cup class he will need to be beating this lot (who are mostly Grand National candidates) pretty handily.

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Tea For Two gets withdrawn later as I don’t think this stamina test will suit him at all especially given how he finished (or didn’t) at Haydock.

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