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Just bumping this one up with yesterdays Pavilion Stakes out of the way
no damage done as far as Blue Point and Harry Angel are concerned and I’m still all over Harry Angel for this although he’ll have to improve he looks the sort to do so being lightly raced.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
I actually backed Caravaggio antepost for Ascot last year. Was my NAP of the meeting as i knew his time in Ireland on heavy going was superb despite him being a horse suited to the faster surface.
I also backed him for the Guineas at 12s before Churchill emerged.
If he fails in the Guineas (if he runs), he could run in this. His speed is so good that only lady eurelia would do him for sheer speed. But I’m pretty sure she’s suited to the minimum trip.
Blue point is a strange one. Not quite sure what to make of him yet.
I love Caravaggio but I can’t play him until the French Guineas. I’ll know whether he’s trained on, sticking to a mile or likely to drop back in trip (which is what I thinks likely best anyway).
I agree with Steve though on the French horse Yas. One to watch.
No play as of yet though. Interesting race though.
I actually backed Caravaggio antepost for Ascot last year. Was my NAP of the meeting as i knew his time in Ireland on heavy going was superb despite him being a horse suited to the faster surface.
I also backed him for the Guineas at 12s before Churchill emerged.
If he fails in the Guineas (if he runs), he could run in this. His speed is so good that only lady eurelia would do him for sheer speed. But I’m pretty sure she’s suited to the minimum trip.
Blue point is a strange one. Not quite sure what to make of him yet.
I love Caravaggio but I can’t play him until the French Guineas. I’ll know whether he’s trained on, sticking to a mile or likely to drop back in trip (which is what I thinks likely best anyway).
I agree with Steve though on the French horse Yas. One to watch.
No play as of yet though. Interesting race though.
Caravaggio has disappeared from the French 2000 Guineas betting. Despite still being entered up, it looks like it’s an open secret that he won’t run. He missed his intended seasonal opener at Dundalk, He missed the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket and while O’Brien confirmed this week that he was still in the French 2000 Guineas, he was quick to add that the colt could yet go sprinting.
I am just waiting until the day they say he will go sprinting and then sit in wait of the reason why he will not go to Royal Ascot for the Commonwealth Cup.
Surely, if the horse was deemed ready for a run at Dundalk and they then came out and said the horse was so forward, that he could go to his target without a run, then it made sense to grasp the nettle, go for the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket, and if the horse didn’t stay, then go sprinting in the Commonwealth Cup?
Why did the horse need to wait for the French 2000 Guineas, if he was ready to roll six weeks ago? Why has he now disappeared from the French Guineas betting?
The horse may come on for time but he is not going to get any more stamina through waiting.
Maybe I am wrong, but it reeks to me of one of those scenarios, where the horse has a setback before the Commonwealth Cup that leads to him missing that race, and a couple of weeks later it’s meant he has to retire, unbeaten as one of the best ever.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Paddy Power have pushed Caravaggio out to 5/1 and there is a general changing of the guard, with Blue Point taking over as favourite in places.
The excuses are starting to wear thin with the colt now. Needed a run, didn’t need a run, missed three engagements etc etc
It hasn’t taken them this long to find out that the horse is fast enough for sprinting. It stinks of stalling for time.
People seem to think I have something against Caravaggio but it’s not the case. He was a big winner for me at Royal Ascot and I was with the horse from the first run. I am only trying to help people in considering whether the colt was any value for the two Guineas races he has now missed and the Commonwealth Cup. If you backed him for those Guineas it’s money lost, and if anyone took earlier prices for the Commonwealth, he is now a bigger price.
I think it will be between Blue Point, Harry Angel and the US raider Bound For Nowhere if he takes his chance. I feel they may go to the Jersey or St James Palace with Dream Castle, since his Guineas effort gave encouragement not to drop him to sprinting just yet.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Today’s impressive Ponte winner Brian The Snail added to Coral’s book at 10/1.
BetVictor introduce him at a rickety 20/1, which will obviously disappear in the next few minutes.
I have been following the form of Brian The Snail’s Pontefract win and it’s been bloody awful to be honest.
Runner up Jule In The Crown was 14th of 15 runners next time. Third horse Hemingway was 11th of 11 runners on his next start. The others were all unplaced in handicaps at modest tracks.
I’d be very concerned about Brian The Snail considering he’s moving up to Group 1 company after beating horses doing nothing to back the form up.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Rumours that Lady Aurelia might be heading for this race, and if she does the 10/1 currently available will look big. I’m also tempted to take the 5/1 about Caravggio as if he looks good at Naas that price will be slashed.
O’Brien on Caravaggio
“He’s rapid, he really is, and we’ve never even tried to see how far he’ll stay. He’s got so much speed it wouldn’t be fair.
“He’s the only horse I’ve ever seen that actually stumbles when he quickens and he does it so quick.
“If all goes well at Naas then we’d look at Ascot, but I see no point in taking on his elders when we don’t have to, so it would be the Commonwealth Cup.”
“If all goes well”
Doesn’t sound very confident
“stumbles when he quickens”
There’s the ready made excuse, “Listen, we were giving him a final piece of work and asked him to quicken, he stumbled as he does and has had a slight setback, we’ll see how it goes and if he recovers we’ll look at the July cup”
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Very cynical of you Nathan. I’ve taken the plunge and had a bit on Caravaggio at 5/1. I’m sure Steve will be on to tell me I’m a moron shortly.
I don’t know if anyone is interested or not but if you go onto Keeneland Racing’s twitter page they posted a final furlong replay of Bound For Nowhere‘s win there on 20th April.
It was very impressive for such an inexperienced horse and the runner-up had already won a race.
Best price 9/1 for the Commonwealth.
Very cynical of you Nathan. I’ve taken the plunge and had a bit on Caravaggio at 5/1. I’m sure Steve will be on to tell me I’m a moron shortly.
If Caravaggio turns up the same horse as last year, you’ll be in with a good chance
if he turns up…Nathbet has opened a book on who will show up at Royal Ascot special, maximum stake 10 pence, any winnings to be paid out in freebets, double or quits and rock, paper scissors gamble.
12/1 Hunt Ball
16/1 James Sherwood
22/1 gingertipster
25/1 Caravaggio
100/1 Lord LucanGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
It seems odd to have entered Caravaggio in two Guineas and kept the illusion that the horse was an intended runner right up until late on, only to then say they have never made any attempt to find out if he is likely to stay a mile?
If the horse is so fast and was ready to go for a Guineas without a prep race, then why not just do the obvious and set out on a sprint career from day one of the new season?
Why does he now need a race before the Commonwealth Cup? They have admitted that they have done nothing to aim the horse in a mile direction during training and if he is ticking over showing tremendous speed, then why the run in a Group 3, where we will find out nothing other than whether he has trained on or not? It’s not as if they were trying him at 7F plus on the gallops to get a gauge on his chances of staying a mile and then perhaps had to change the regime to refresh his memory that he was the fastest horse they have ever had.
If people want to back Caravaggio for the Royal Ascot race, that is their prerogative of course. I made my call on the colt a long time ago and nothing has happened, other than talk, to suggest I had the wrong end of the stick.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Caravaggio back into fav, Paddy were biggest at 5’s but 7/2 now
probably to do with O’Brien’s current run of form more than anything else. Every horse he has entered tomorrow has ‘yard in good form’ in the comments on ATR website. Yes, we know that, how about telling us something else about the horse perhaps….
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I love Caravaggio. I love him. It’d be a shame if he hasn’t trained on. I think I have a few multiples with him for the commonwealth cup but I’ve made my first proper bet for the race. First proper multiple bet and in that I have gone with the French horse at 16s: Fas
I love Caravaggio. I love him. It’d be a shame if he hasn’t trained on. I think I have a few multiples with him for the commonwealth cup but I’ve made my first proper bet for the race. First proper multiple bet and in that I have gone with the French horse at 16s: Fas
Well the horse Fas thrashed last time just went and won the French 1000 Guineas. She was more than 3 lengths behind him, so that’s a nice boost.
I’ve been into Ladbrokes and topped up at 20/1 before the news filters down.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Hard to believe that horses like Mrs Danvers, Cliffs Of Moher and Brave Anna are shorter across the boards than Fas. Stan James have them skinny enough, yet Fas, who thrashed Mrs Danvers and today’s French 1000 Guineas winner last time he ran, is not even in Stan James list for the Commonwealth Cup, despite his trainer being adamant all along that this is where he will run.
Words fail me for these people sometimes. A million in their list who won’t be running and an obvious contender not even in the betting. Jesus Christ, Stan James are a shambles.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Hard to believe that horses like Mrs Danvers, Cliffs Of Moher and Brave Anna are shorter across the boards than Fas. Stan James have them skinny enough, yet Fas, who thrashed Mrs Danvers and today’s French 1000 Guineas winner last time he ran, is not even in Stan James list for the Commonwealth Cup, despite his trainer being adamant all along that this is where he will run.
Words fail me for these people sometimes. A million in their list who won’t be running and an obvious contender not even in the betting. Jesus Christ, Stan James are a shambles.
I reckon Stan James are reading this forum. They have brought Fas into their book for this race now.
Sadly, they are by far the shortest across the boards, with only 10/1. Never mind boys, the thought was there at least
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Brian The Snail was a snail at York today, stone last at odds-on, with Gosden’s Ardad not much better in second last spot.
Brian The Snail was pushed out to 25/1 afterwards. That makes no appeal to me. I wouldn’t run him if he were my horse.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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