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Cav Okay

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  • #71681
    DeadlySins
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    I have been surprised by Cav, I thought he would go on and impress in decent races judging on his debut performance, fair enough it was just a maiden but it wasn’t hard to get carried away by his win. Wasn’t the same animal at Chester and a step up today on unknown ground, I think he will be smart 3yo nonetheless, I wonder if he needs genuine fast ground.

    #71682
    Lingfield
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    Overshadowed by other events today but Cav Okay again had to be taken on at Sandown today at 3/1 F.<br>Got fast ground but stiff track doesn’t suit and predictably faded over a furlong out before dropping out to finish last  

    #71683
    davidjohnson
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    Lingfield

    I’d have rather read such a view 110 mins before the race rather than after it :biggrin:

    What the race did show is that the Albany is looking strong form, Satulagi also upholding it in listed company at Newmarket last week whereas I have continuously bleated that the Queen Mary is garbage, the four horses that seemed to improve in that race (Sparkling Eyes, Slippersearcher, Christmas Tart and Vital Statistics) have all come out and run below form. Will be very interesting to see if RPR continue to have Gilded rated 103.  

    (Edited by davidjohnson at 5:06 pm on July 7, 2006)

    #71684
    Lingfield
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    Thought you’d accuse me of aftertiming DJ!<br>I didn’t get involved in the race due to lack of time and have just caught up with today’s racing after work.<br>Shows that reasons to oppose Cav are still valid- seems it must have fast ground AND a sharp track as absence of either will find it out.<br>Would you back it on a sharp track on fast going depending on quality of opposition?<br>Is it just a regressive short runner?

    #71685
    davidjohnson
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    He was a good early season sort but his form is no better than weakish listed standard. He has little scope to train on so I think he’ll struggle now, especially when some of the better sorts come out a bit later.

    I was only pulling ya leg about the afterming mate:cool:

    #71686
    Anonymous
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    The horse is a short-runner, and no better than a handicapper, which is no doubt why his trainer persists in running him in the wrong circumstances.<br> Just another instance of s/f misleading when the form book told the real truth.:biggrin:

    #71687
    Anonymous
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    Stav

    You obviously can’t see the difference between failed and evolved!<br> Maybe that’s t why you’ve regressed to the colouring book.;)

    (Edited by reet hard at 9:42 pm on July 7, 2006)

    #71688
    Avatar photoPurwell
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    EC <br>Nice to see you back amongst us. I don’t always agree with you,  but you do know the wood from the trees & keep up the good work.

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #71689
    Avatar photoRacing Daily
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    This has to be one of the most dissapointing horses i’ve seen in a while.  Promised a lot, delivered zero :(<br>Cav Okay would be better off running in those 2f sprints stateside.  His style of running means that he won’t stay 5f LOL

    #71690
    nore
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    Any chance he will reproduce his best at the track-and-trip of his first win?

    #71691
    davidjohnson
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    Wasn’t his run in the Norfolk better than his debut? And won’t he have to do better again to win today anyway?

    Regarding Nina Blini, is it a concern that her Queen Mary form is head and shoulders above anything else that she’s ever achieved, and she wouldn’t be the only one in that field that seems to have run a PB in that race.

    #71692
    nore
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    Cav Okay – doesnt want to race anymore

    #71693
    Avatar photoRacing Daily
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    Nah.  Barely stayed 2f.  A joke.

    (Edited by Racing Daily at 3:38 pm on July 22, 2006)

    #71694
    The Market Man
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    Couldn’t it just be that everything else has caught up with Cav Okay who was a very early, quick 2yo? The second horse from his debut win has obviously improved, Cav Okay hasn’t and has possibly been over-hyped due to the apeed figure of his first race. Should really have won at Chester, defeat there was a sign that this horse probably wasn’t as good as first thought.

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    (Edited by The Market Man at 4:43 am on July 23, 2006)

    #71695
    Lingfield
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    It got taken on for the lead at the Chester trick track and ran twice at Sandown, once on v. soft going,where it is Hughes’s opinion that it doesn’t stay.<br>Yes, others may have caught it up but to my mind it has been oddly campaigned.

    #71696
    Anonymous
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    How much evidence do you need that the horse is a short runner?<br> The trainer expressed reservations about his ability to stay 5f before his first race. Against modest and inexperienced opposition he "had the race in the bag after 1.5 furlongs" (RP analysis), which left him nothing to do long before stamina became an issue.<br> In his next race, around a relatively easy Chester 5, he was found wanting against better horses more than a furlong out, as has been the case on each subsequent run.<br> As some of us already acknowledge, a horse race, even over the shortest trip, asks more questions than how fast can a horse run; Cav Okay has answered every one with a negative.<br>Speed isn’t everything, only those that think it is will continue to ignore the more obvious truths that stare them in their face.

    #71698
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    I’ve seen what this horse is capable of.  Place lay today.<br>Confident.

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