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Yes would be interesting – I’m no expert either, but it looks to me like the horse is fighting against the jockey for a large % of the race.
The horse didn’t fight anything for a large % of the race. He bowled along 5-6 lengths detached from the main group. He only started to fight when he joined other horses about 2 1/2 furlongs out. Its what happens when you keep reigning back a horse that wants to run faster, it fights! Is that what you normally see towards the end of a race, a horse still fighting for its head two hundred yards from the line? The horse if trying should surely be sent on to try to win the race at stage, no?
I would love to hear the opinion of someone experienced in race riding on this.
Should have inserted the word "objective" before opinion there, carvills, which will be difficult to obtain if its another jockey, retired or otherwise.
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From The Guardian:
but the early indications are that there was no obvious attempt to profit from the horse’s defeat. Casela Park was not a notable pre-race drifter in the betting market, being returned at 17-2 after opening at 10-1 on the track, and there have not so far been complaints of suspicious betting from the off-course firms or betting exchanges.
Scotney’s boys are like on-course bookies that started out in the last six years: can’t even wipe their own ar** without the machine providing a route map.
No obvious attempt to profit from the horse’s defeat? Good grief!
What does it matter if no profit was made directly on the day? Of course you’re not going to find any evidence from yesterday’s race when it’s seemingly being laid out for a
future
coup.
Future Coup? are you mad?
Anyone who would lay a horse like this out to try and have a touch would have to be stark raving bonkers.
The horse has a screw loose and can run one way one day and another way the next…….nobody in their right mind would even think of gambling on him.
Anyone who would lay a horse like this out to try and have a touch would have to be stark raving bonkers.
He’s a stone ahead of the handicapper, Fist.
Future Coup? are you mad?
Anyone who would lay a horse like this out to try and have a touch would have to be stark raving bonkers.
The horse has a screw loose and can run one way one day and another way the next…….nobody in their right mind would even think of gambling on him.
Nobody? Not even those with psychic abilities on what sort of day it’s gonna be? Such people seem to exist for this sort of horse.
Ladbrokes ‘up to the minute’ race overview for tonight:
Casela Park has not yet won on turf but ran a nice race in a more competitive contest than this at Leopardstown last time out. If he handles this galloping track over a trip that suits then he looks a major player.- Total Posts 17716
Ladbrokes ‘up to the minute’ race overview for tonight:
Casela Park has not yet won on turf but ran a nice race in a more competitive contest than this at Leopardstown last time out. If he handles this galloping track over a trip that suits then he looks a major player.Same on the Sporting Life site, I’m afraid.
More importantly, the horse is still vying for favouritism with the Fahey/Hanagan entry. I expect we’ll all be tuning in with enthusiasm to see how (if!) Casela Park runs.
If you were the trainer facing a serious ban, would you want this to win on the bridle tonight?
I’m going to take a guess what’s going to happen tonight.The trainer and jockey are both bricking it right now.I’ve watched all of this horses runs and no way was that anything but what we all think and thought it was.
The horse looks comfortable leading and I think they will make all tonight but do they really want to win? I think they will get beat by going too fast in front.
This has to be race of the day
If you were the trainer facing a serious ban, would you want this to win on the bridle tonight?
No, but on the other hand, can they prevent it (again)?
The only out I can see is to withdraw the horse or change the jockey, if it’s the later I think we can safely say it’s a good thing.…no way was that anything but what we all think and thought it was.
In the interests of balance, there are a small number of people (and not all of them connected with the horse) who take a very different view.
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Glenluji will canter over this lot. 8/1, yes please.
…no way was that anything but what we all think and thought it was.
In the interests of balance, there are a small number of people (and not all of them connected with the horse) who take a very different view.
watch the other races the horse has been in.
It’s been a funny sort of market all day on tonight’s race. One non-runner leaving a field of eight. Plenty will be looking for a sound each way bet but hold your horses. I wouldn’t be surprised to see another withdrawal before the off. The Smart horse down from 20’s to 7’s. Casela opened 2/1 then drifted to 7/2 and now back to 2’s. I reckon Sean was right in suggesting Casela should be suspended whilst facing disciplinary matters. I’d love to be a fly on the wall of Casela’s horse box.
watch the other races the horse has been in.
I have. I am not one of the people who disagrees with you.
watch the other races the horse has been in.
I have. I am not one of the people who disagrees with you.
ok will be fun to watch later though.I think we all can agree on that
Whatever the truth of the matter I think it’s worth not forgetting that people’s livelihoods are at stake here and they will have families to feed.
For the vast majority of us on here we’ve been around long enough to know that in racing ‘untoward incidents’ take place every day of the week and let’s face it, apart from a few truly good souls, how many of us can hold our hands up and honestly say that we have always been squeaky clean in every aspect of our lives? We bet week in, week out, demanding that those connected with the horses we back, achieve a higher plane of morals than many of us can ever hope to aspire to. Are we being too unrealistic in expecting those on the inside to be superior human beings to ourselves? Cast not the first stone….
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