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  • #311335
    Avatar photoOneEye
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    Tonight’s race should have absolutely no bearing on what happened on Wednesday. What happened on Wednesday is done, and whether the horse wins in a canter tonight or pulls too hard and gets beat then that is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

    None of you will need reminding, but I’ll say it again. The trainer and jockey have been referred to a BHA hearing not for a day out, not for their fate to be decided, but to learn of their punishment.

    They

    ALREADY HAVE

    been found guilty of non-trying by the Newcastle Stewards. They have been found guilty of being in breach of a rule that covers a horse being intentionally restrained and not let down.

    Some people (not on here) appear to think the trainer and jockey have done nothing wrong and that their day out at the BHA is to see if they are guilty or not of non-trying. They already are guilty of non-trying. I can’t express this enough.

    Yet amazingly, despite the Newcastle stewards finding trainer and jockey guilty of non-trying, I’ve read at least one person on this thread describe the ride as an excellent one. It beggars belief, but then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that.

    I hope the book is thrown at jockey and trainer to be honest. And that really is my last word on the subject.

    #311338
    apracing
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    Behan has announced he never wants to ride the horse again, has declared himself too ill to ride this evening, and has been replaced by Patrick Mathers.

    AP

    #311339
    conundrum
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    Big Phil wrote….Glenluji will canter over this lot. 8/1, yes please.

    At first glance it does seem very generous odds. Problem = the jockey. It’s last two wins have had Hanagan aboard. In between, tonight’s jockey Paul Norton rode it and I’m afraid that’s enough to suggest to me that the trainer doesn’t want this one to go any higher up the handicap. If I’m proven wrong I will refrain from posting here for a month.
    Ken

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    I’m amazed this thing looks like starting favourite no doubt due to what people think they saw. Makes a bit of mess of theory that they were after a longer price. I’d be interested to know from Barry Dennis will he be laying it? Is it his bismarck ??!!

    #311346
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    It will also be interesting to see how Burns Night runs; down in the weights having not been competitive at all this season in four runs for Geoff Harker and heavily backed throughout the day.

    #311348
    thedarkknight
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    Good effort today on an extremely tricky horse. 100% stand by my original thoughts about the ride the other day – in fact more convinced the horse wasn’t deliberately stopped after that run…

    #311349
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    I suppose Geoff Harker is the crook of the day now. Another duck egg gamble. Blah, Blah, Blah

    #311350
    conundrum
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    Note to Tyrrell: Place him in a listed race on good to soft/soft going on a left-handed course with a long straight and just gently bring him through to challenge in the final furlong. Better still, put me aboard.

    #311351
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    Big Phil wrote….Glenluji will canter over this lot. 8/1, yes please.

    At first glance it does seem very generous odds. Problem = the jockey. It’s last two wins have had Hanagan aboard. In between, tonight’s jockey Paul Norton rode it and I’m afraid that’s enough to suggest to me that the trainer doesn’t want this one to go any higher up the handicap. If I’m proven wrong I will refrain from posting here for a month.
    Ken

    Good call.

    Will be keeping an eye on him in the future.

    Should do that more often, another of my horses won today without me knowing about it (Piazza San Pietro), grrrr.

    #311352
    jose1993
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    Interesting to note tonight’s jockey never went for any gaps, used the whip and Casela Park’s head carriage was completely true when placed under pressure with clear running. Just my take on it, anyway.

    #311353
    Glenn
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    A very similar ride by Dazzler just now on a horse that won racing prominently last time. The ending had a different twist (looking down) but the first and second acts were the same.

    Those seeing it’s too good be true price at the off wouldn’t have backed it with counterfeit.

    #311355
    Avatar photoMatthew01
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    Didn’t want to win tonight, hope they get struck off.

    #311359
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    Horse wasn’t good enough, given every chance.

    #311362
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    The whole race was a bit of a mess at Musselburgh this evening. A few were running around all over the place. It looked to me that Casela Park just wasn’t good enough. Better back on the all-weather maybe?
    Glenluji needs to come from the back, he picked his way through here a few weeka ago, but he had to come five wide and lost too much ground in the manoeuvre. Burns Night just got the run of the race, and even then he carved up Diggeratt, the latter not being good enough to do anything about it.

    #311374
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    as predicted a bismarck lay of the day you’ve all been suckered the bookies must be laughing

    #311391
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    A combination of THE worst decisions I’ve ever seen made by a jockey during any race ever, and a horse that needs a set of dark shades.

    The rider seemed to do everything in his power to NOT let he horse put his best foot forward, but I just feel it was unintentional. You can’t deny the horse is a nutter, and we all know there are jockeys riding that shouldn’t be; marry the two occasionally, and you’ll get controversy.

    #311395
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    A combination of THE worst decisions I’ve ever seen made by a jockey during any race ever, and a horse that needs a set of dark shades.

    The rider seemed to do everything in his power to NOT let he horse put his best foot forward, but I just feel it was unintentional. You can’t deny the horse is a nutter, and we all know there are jockeys riding that shouldn’t be; marry the two occasionally, and you’ll get controversy.

    Very true indeed. And Mr Boyce is quite right to point out that this case has gone beyond

    "controversy"

    or TRF opinion(s).

    The connections have already been found guilty by the Newcastle Stewards: the "referring on" is more like an automatic appeal, which will either confirm their decision and deal appropriate punishments, or revise it downwards in favour of the trainer/jockey concerned.

    Should be an interesting BHA decision, and it’s not been made any easier by the large amount of publicity (supporting both sides) which the incident has generated.

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