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Difference is Matthew, yours was based on subjective opinion. There is clear evidence in this case that the jockey failed to assist the horse in achieving its true running.
Difference is Matthew, yours was based on subjective opinion. There is clear evidence in this case that the jockey failed to assist the horse in achieving its true running.
No problem, I can see that now, thanks.
One oddity here is that the trainer used to be a regular visitor, particularly to the AW tracks, and sent some decent horses over here to run in Group and Listed races.
But this was his first UK runner since October 2008, although Casela Park did come to run at Ayr in May, but was withdrawn over passport irregularities.
He’s also had only a tiny number of runners in Ireland since 2008 – six last year and six this, compared to almost 100 in 2008.
By the way, the horse doesn’t stop in front and the boy does know to ride properly – watch Casela Bay’s last effort at Leopardstown for confirmation.
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Well, I’ve seen it…and I still don’t believe it.
With about 75 yds to go I just got the impression that the jockey though ‘****, I’m going to win this, better do something.’
Rotten.
Of course I am Carv.
Just watching the ATR replay again and did anyone notice how he was kept separate for ages behind the stalls from all the others circling in front of the stalls? What was the reason for that, I wonder? Does the horse get worked-up when he’s close to other horses?Ken, I think we’re all in agreement that the horse was deliberately stopped from winning (can I say that without consequence). Therefore, if the horse does get worked up when he’s close to others then surely the jockey would have put the horse in the mix before the race – as from the race itself the intentions from the horse’s connections were clearly to get the horse beat.
Therefore I don’t think keeping the horse away from others prior to the start was so that it didn’t get worked up. Could it be the opposite however?
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I havn’t watched it yet but this must be another blow to the ‘racing is never bent only mug punters think it is’ brigade?
No, not really, there were 10 other triers in the field.
When you buy a bag of crisps, whats the chances you get 1 bad crisp?
Its inetivable this happens but with expierance you can spot the bad bigrade or anything that doesn’t look right, no skin off Horse Racings back or the guys that say Racing is clean as the party in question will be dealt with.
Matthew or anyone else for that matter, if you haven’t already just register your details with ATR, just like on here..no money required, and you get to watch all of their replays for nothing.
Matthew or anyone else for that matter, if you haven’t already just register your details with ATR, just like on here..no money required, and you get to watch all of their replays for nothing.
I’ll have to wait till 9am tomorrow (racing review) my lap top is broken.
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When you buy a bag of crisps, whats the chances you get 1 bad crisp?
hmmm,… horses and crisps.
Missing the analogy as usual Marble, losing your marbles?.
Good point, One Eye. What struck me about him being alone behind the stalls was that he was circling the horse at a faster rate of knots than the others, surely not to tire it? All most peculiar.
Good point, One Eye. What struck me about him being alone behind the stalls was that he was circling the horse at a faster rate of knots than the others,
surely not to tire it?
All most peculiar.
Surely not
Jockey to stewards…"because we were on our own behind the stalls I had no idea how fast I was going round and round in circles. So much so that the horse was a bit dizzy and disorientated and didn’t know whether he was coming or going. I did everything in my power to straighten him up Sir."
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Missing the analogy as usual Marble, losing your marbles?.
Marble losing his marbles is about as good an analogy as you’re crisp one, not that good, about 5/10 infact. I suppose that’s all I’m worth.
I know you’re still brewing about my comments in the Arcano thread, your witty remark towards the end of the thread displayed your bitter nature.
I don’t hold grudges either, so I have nothing against you.
Are you having that one, Glenn.
I’ve asked before, I’ll ask again.
Dear Rabble,
WHY OH WHY OH WHY OH WHY are foreign horse allowed to be beamed into low grade handicaps in the UK? What legitimate reason can there possibly be for someone passing up races for prize money many times bigger at home to run for rossettes here? There’s only one reason they come – Because British racing is
offshore
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I know this is about the only growth industry within this dieing sport, but do you think you might show some initiative and finally do something?
This horse has run before in low grade races here and like pretty much all its ilk, the results are bi-modal. It finishes tailed off last or it wins. Do you see any clues there?
How about placing less emphasis on keystone cop investigations and, instead, spend some time drawing up some worthwhile regulations.
Rant Over
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