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From The Guardian:
Investigators looking at the case of Casela Park, whose running at Newcastle yesterday sparked a furore among punters and who races again tomorrow, have yet to turn up any evidence of suspicious betting patterns relating to the race.
The five-year-old finished a never-nearer sixth of 12 under tender handling from his jockey, Jason Behan, who was referred to the British Horseracing Authority by the local stewards, along with the horse’s trainer, Eamon Tyrrell. Both men deny any wrongdoing.
The pair are charged with breaches of the "non-trier" rules and face the possibility of lengthy bans if found guilty, but the early indications are that there was no obvious attempt to profit from the horse’s defeat. Casela Park was not a notable pre-race drifter in the betting market, being returned at 17-2 after opening at 10-1 on the track, and there have not so far been complaints of suspicious betting from the off-course firms or betting exchanges.
Nevertheless, the verdict of the respected Timeform organisation, published today, was damning. In their "Perspective" comment on Casela Park, the firm noted that he "drew unfavourable attention like few other horses have for many a year", adding that "his running needed to be seen to be believed, no explaining the ride other than in improper terms".
According to Timeform, Casela Park was "clearly unable to give all he could … with the jockey never taking his hands off the reins to go for the whip". Casela Park is likely to be at the centre of attention when he runs in the second race at Musselburgh, with Behan again expected to be in the saddle.
If a jockey is riding to instruction not to win, some panick if they think they might and produce an awful ride. They sometimes still win, and then apologise profusely afterwards.
The other scenario is the jockey, deciding he could win the race, when instructed not to, lumps on with friends and family and does just that, wins.
Connections are obviously not happy but excuses are made, "couldn’t hold it, awful race that didn’t pan out, no cover ….".
If this happens too many times, jockey dropped by connections, and amazingly rides dry up completely from other trainers. Career ended without even facing BHA.
Is there a warning system about those that do not obey?
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RFC need to ban Jockey, Trainer and connections.
Get the mainstream media to print a story and show the whole country that racing won’t be allowed to be fixed.
Everyone knows racing is fixed already hence why people stick to dogs and them silly roulette machines.
Pull your finger out of your arse RFC and earn your wages.
From The Guardian:
but the early indications are that there was no obvious attempt to profit from the horse’s defeat. Casela Park was not a notable pre-race drifter in the betting market, being returned at 17-2 after opening at 10-1 on the track, and there have not so far been complaints of suspicious betting from the off-course firms or betting exchanges.
Scotney’s boys are like on-course bookies that started out in the last six years: can’t even wipe their own ar** without the machine providing a route map.
No obvious attempt to profit from the horse’s defeat? Good grief!
What does it matter if no profit was made directly on the day? Of course you’re not going to find any evidence from yesterday’s race when it’s seemingly being laid out for a
future
coup.
Think you are right Glenn, people have forgotten the old ways.
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I wish more people would take some time out and look a bit harder before reacting to these threads.
When I saw Carv’s post I thought hell this must be bad……….then in they came the punters club yielding the big sticks
First thing I noticed was the distance from home when the jockey according to most started playing silly buggers…only what I saw was a horse asked to sidestep the horse in front fully 3 furlongfrom home, take a mad dive left as if hewas chasing a fly and then it was like the fly had changed direction and he dicided to follow suit…..poor guy has to ride the thing again today and good on him I hope he wins.
If this was a stopping job it’s got to go down as the worst effort on history………Horse is total nutcase and this hang them at dawn is nonsense.
Hughsie pulled this horse up one day and W Lee whoever he is gave up completely on him at Dundalk when he came 4 wide going into a bend in a chelleging position but lost loads of ground by hanging right and lost all the chance he had.
I thought the thing was going to run through the rails at one point and the jockey looked to have one thing on his mind and to hell with winning…….get himself and the horse past the post safely. Or maybe some of you think he should have just barged through without a care in the world and killed a few jockeys and horses on his way?
If the BHA impose any sort of punishment on the trainer or jockey it will be a total miscarriage of justice IMVHO
First thing I noticed was the distance from home when the jockey according to most started playing silly buggers…only what I saw was a horse asked to sidestep the horse in front fully 3 furlongfrom home, take a mad dive left as if hewas chasing a fly and then it was like the fly had changed direction and he dicided to follow suit…..poor guy has to ride the thing again today and good on him I hope he wins
The horse was still 5 lengths detached at that stage Fist.
I’ve watched all 13 previous races now. Two things for me, all this horses best form is when ridden from the front or prominently and the horse loves to run up with the pack.
The tactic at Newcastle seems to be keep him away from other horses so he doesn’t light up and thus prevent him getting to the front so he can give his best form. As the field starts to come back to him (where things start to wrong with the plan) and he gets attached again about 2 1/2 furlong’s out, he wants to take off as he senses being in the pack again. Watch the 2 huge right arm pulls the jockey takes 1 1/2 furlongs and a half furlong out to prevent that. Those pulls when the horse is travelling straight should seal his fate.
Looks like he has tonnes in hand of Phil Smith, Wednesday was the set up day for the price today, back at the trip he last won at imo.
Cant ever remember seeing a horse still pulling for its head 100 yards from the finishing post, as someone on Betfair said even the horse seemed to be objecting to the ride. Actually its the poor horse I feel sorry for.
Anyway vermin like this have no place in OUR sport. Five years too short, hopefully the BHA will do the right thing this time. Another firm press on the sport’s self destruct button if they don’t imo.
Contrary to my previous post as to how tonight’s race might unfold I reckon connections are possibly missing a trick with this horse.
If he can be ridden with far more restraint he could do himself justice over more than a mile on the turf. Admittedly his sire, Elnadim, was a decent sprinter but on the dam’s side, Ela-Mana-Mou, he has the capability of getting at least a mile and a half. From the evidence of the other day he was only just beginning to motor at the business end of seven furlongs. Previously most of his runs have been on the all weather and significantly he changed trainer following his last run at Dundalk in April. He then ran at Leopardstown but that first run for his new trainer can best be ignored. The fact that Tyrrell is persevering with turf suggests that he realises the future potential of this horse, despite it having won twice at Dundalk. Send him over the jumps in the Autumn.
The negative, sad to say, is the jockey. Tyrrell must be ruthless and put someone else on board who can preserve the horse’s energy until the crucial stages of a race. Spencer or Hughes spring to mind.
It’s going to be a fascinating watch tonight. I hope it gets to post.Please explain what you mean by, and to whom you are applying, the word "hysterical", TDK.
I’m applying it to virtually everything (and everyone) I have read and heard on the subject, from ATR to the forums like this one.
We can all argue the toss on this but as of right now the trainer and jockey have been found in breach of one of the most serious offences in the racing rules. The referral to the BHA is automatic in such a serious breach and allows for fuller consideration of exactly what charges need to be framed against these individuals and how that should be prosecuted. It should not be seen as an expression of doubt at this stage.
Given that this is the case, it seems to be indefensible that the horse is allowed to run tonight. There is no way that the integrity of that race tonight can be enforced given the participation of a horse that the authority’s own stewards have found to have been prevented from running on its merits just 48 hours ago and given that by far the most likely and logical motivation for such an offence would be to manipulate price and expectations prior to today.
Had a fuller rant on my blog now that I’m back from hols!
I agree with your blog comments about the rather unsavoury backslapping that typically accompanies the classic "duck egg" coups – although would point out that ATR as a channel are by far the worst offenders when it comes to this.
Let’s hope some of your colleagues read your blog….
I would love to hear the opinion of someone experienced in race riding on this. In my ill-informed opinion the jockey seemed to have the horse under restraint for the entire race where normally the reins would be loosened and the jockey would push the horse out. Pity John Francome doesn’t post on here! Hope he gets a chance to discuss it on the Morning Line tomorrow.
Yes would be interesting – I’m no expert either, but it looks to me like the horse is fighting against the jockey for a large % of the race.
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the rather unsavoury backslapping that typically accompanies the classic "duck egg" coups –
These activities are considered very clever by not only the connections, but by the outsiders who have had a successful bet. And they do not consider it really corrupt, not when compared to laying a horse that is prevented from winning.
I feel sorry for the horses, and the jockeys who have to obey instructions if wanting to continue riding.
Some of them leave, unable to stomach it any longer. Others are booted out, either by the BHA, or "insiders" who become suspicious about the jockey’s loyalty, particularly if the jockey has no family connections.
There is little, if any, protection for an honest rider against unscrupulous owners/trainers. Why?Initially, my knee-jerk reaction was similar to others on here….the horse was deliberately pulled. Studying replay after replay and based on my own riding, though not race riding, experience I have serious doubts about there having been anything other than poor horsemanship at play.
It is unfortunate that the ATR replay does not have the head-on view. It would be interesting to hear why the starter permitted the horse to circle behind the stalls for a good two to three minutes prior to the rest of the field being taken round to go into the stalls. Was he made aware of some idiosyncrasy relating to this horse.
I disagree with Sean in that surely the connections are innocent until proven guilty? This should not be an open and shut case and contrary to what Sean states, I believe that this is precisely the time when there should an element of doubt and open-mindedness as to exactly what happened. How many of the people sat in that stewards room have ever been aboard a headstrong horse? For one stipendiary steward, assisting a bunch of amateurs, to pass judgement does not seem like true justice to me.- Total Posts 17716
In my ill-informed opinion
First thing you got right mate.
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