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Boris Johnson exits as PM or Frankie Dettori retires as a jockey: which….

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    Avatar photoWilts
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    The much-criticised social media has actually exposed a number of public health ‘scams’. It was SM that first exposed the incidental covid cases in hospital admission numbers.
    Even today, some NHS bod was going on about rising covid admissions, without explaining 2/3 are now incidentals.

    Luckily, the ONS reports, latest from last week, exposes the ‘lies’ about covid hospital admissions. There are less than 0.3% of all covid admissions (incl incidentals) that are in ICU.

    Most peeps are walking out of hospital with little or no treatment for covid specific, whilst in there. But they’re testing positive on admission (for other things like minor op). But at the mo the NHS are bleating about rising admissions. The only real impact on rhe NHS is space, as their own protocols mean anyone testing pos has to go in a covid ward to isolate.

    Anyways, enough from me, as i’ve digressed somewhat :scratch:

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    He will cling on like grim death as long as he can.

    Free of Sunak, he can slash taxes as sending public borrowing even further through the roof is a free bet for him.

    If he’s ousted, the debt is someone else’s problem.

    If he stays he’s achieved his objective.

    Threatening, or even calling, a snap election before rule changes can be implemented would a final roll of the dice.

    He’s capable of anything.

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    Boris won’t call a snap election, that’s just silly leftist talk.

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    #1605477
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    It was just one of a number of possible scenarios I listed.

    A 2022 Election is 15/2 at Betfair – the market makes it unlikely but not impossible.

    Nothing would surprise me with Johnson.

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    #1605479
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    Boris will do what ever he needs to to cling on , no one apart from maybe Gove is going to tell he can’t/shouldn’t do something in that cabinet , the really could scar this country for years to come

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    Did Sunak and Ravi resign because of the latest scandal or has Boris decided to slash tax against Sunaks advice and were part of the money to pay for them coming from cuts to the NHS ….common sense says no but we are talking Boris here

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    Let’s face it we are now a crappy third World country of no significance. This has been allowed to happen by the ignorance of the electorate believing the lies of the media and right wing agitators.

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    While I am no fan of this government, to say the UK is now at the level of a Third-World country is surely inaccurate.

    Most such countries would love to have the UK’s wealth, even if it is less evenly distributed than for many years.

    I see the Tories have actually shortened at Betfair to win the next election.

    The market must think a change of leadership is imminent and that it will enhance their prospects.

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    “Third world country” with the worlds fifth biggest economy and hugely significant in the defence of Ukraine. Not that the ever creepy far left will like that of course…. Will they?

    No wonder the far left are simply laughed at. Idiots to the core

    The downside is that they are a cancerous drag on what should be a very decent Labour Party

    #1605495
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    Having thought about it more once the initial shock has worn off, I think Johnson will survive.

    The problem for Javid and Sunak is their resignations are clearly tactical and opportunistic, no matter how much they try to pretend it was done for some principled reason.

    I do not think that is ever well received. I might have had some respect for Sunak if he had resigned two years ago because he did not want to go along with wrecking the economy over a virus – but I cannot have any respect for him now.

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    I think social media has changed the way the mainstream media covers politics.

    There are plenty of bright people who aren’t in the MSM who make well-observed comments and these get picked up by members of the MSM.

    Politicians are often more forensically-examined than ever.

    The motivations of Rishi Sunak and Javid Savid are transparently obvious.

    There’s little more respect for them than there is for Johnson.

    But I also think public cynism about politics is at an all-time high.

    People don’t expect honesty or integrity – they’d like it, but they don’t expect it.

    That works in Johnson’s favour.

    Huge tax cuts are coming – tangible help with the soaring cost of living crisis.

    Not because Johnson cares about the plight of struggling people, but because it might revive his fortunes in the polls and save him.

    And if it doesn’t, dealing with the colossal deficit will be someone else’s problem.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he will go to literally any lengths to stay in power.

    That’s why I wouldn’t even rule out threats of a snap Election, or even doing it if all else failed.

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    A difficult day on the scouring front on Monday – some kind soul left a Mail on Sunday (minus magazine) and a Sunday Telegraph on a park bench in the vicinity of a church which was invitingly accepted by the coffee in hand street scourer – the hooverer up of excessive consumption, the unpaid street cleaner.

    The rather awkward apology yesterday – “Mummy I’ve done it again – forgive me please one more time” had echoes of the boy who cried wolf. I heard these two comments on the Channel four news – To get rid of him they will have to drag him out by the ankles. The other word that fascinated was Tantinoesque ( with a capital – probably not but that is my aberration).
    The media like Big Mac are lovin’ it. With people concentrating on this and being forgetful of their posessions, the streets will be more bountiful as a result.

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    There’s always an angle, gamble.

    If you happen to notice that, distracted by events at Westminster on TV, someone has completely forgotten about the chicken madras and chaptis takeaway they just bought and it’s lying, unopened, on a park bench, give me a shout and I’ll be along with a knife and fork and my bib on!

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    #1605500
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    Perfectly right for them to resign whatever the motives and to claim it’s just for their own ambitions is simply naive

    Party gate and the awful crap we’ve been subjected to in recent months did not exist 2 years ago

    Johnson seems to be taking the bannon/trump (and putin) playbook of believing that the public are thick glorious leader worshipping drones who will gleefully accept constant lies

    Putin and trump appeal only to inadequates who’s lips move when they read (if they can)

    #1605501
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    There’s something very twee
    About eating something free.

    I have changed the 5 second rule for edibles dropped to one or two days. I love the bacteria which gives it an extra tone of flavour and boosts your immunity. I prefer to eat high class nosh leftovers – better quality and high earners tend to wash their hands – not that you’d know.

    Well Clive your post is pressed but still alive.

    #1605502
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    He will not survive because the party want to win elections and also have at least a veneer of respectability. Also a huge number of mps totally despise him especially after the way he threw that junior minister under the bus this week. That is something I’ve never seen any leader come close to doing

    A latest poll states that a whopping three quarters of voters think he’s totally untrustworthy and that’s more than telling

    And no rubbish about how all leaders are the same and the public believe they are all liars out for themselves. They aren’t. Kier could earn millions away from politics and be a world class lawyer

    For all her faults Teresa may was as genuine as they come

    This has been a seedy narcisstuc interlude by a lightweight second rate “populist”

    #1605503
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    Does anyone think sunak is in this for the money ??

    The ones who are obsessed with their careers are the third raters who cling on to this idiot who would stitch them up without a second thought

    To not resign under such dismal
    Governance is selfish and morally bankrupt

    And Zahawi on R4 this morning was a disaster. And rightly so. Taken apart

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