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    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Did my dough antepost on Brain Power last season having backed him at 50s and all rates down for the CH. As Mark says, much more evidence needed he can go left handed so not antepost material yet. Threw some fine jumps and was kind of clever; strong and athletic enough to get over when almost running into a couple.

    He’d want to learn a fair bit from that and get back on his hocks more at every fence if possible. He’s the type who, if he took a fall, it would likely be a vey heavy one. Going at speed, where he can hit a proper rhythm should help.

    #1329132
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    Brain powers jumping really impressed me today. Seemed to have the ability to make adjustments you don’t normally see in novices. If he can go left he might be the one for me.

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    I think the Brain looks like he has bundles of pace and I’d be pretty sure he’d go for the Arkle if he makes it to Cheltenham. He’s said to have a sound excuse for the poor show in the Champion Hurdle and by all accounts David Mullins couldn’t contain his excitement afterwards.

    I had a little bit of money on him at 12/1 for Arkle glory straight after the race. I see he’s no better than 10s now.

    He may well have but he has beaten only mediocre handicappers at 2 miles on what I’ve seen. Some effusive comments from the ebullient Henderson and he went off s short price for the Champion Hurdle.

    That and those two poor runs at Cheltenham mean there’s no way I could back him for an Arkle.

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    The 2 mile Novice Chase division looks weak to me Mark, especially this side of the Irish Sea. For sure, Footpad looks very smart and Petit Mouchoir has the hurdles form but you’d imagine North Hill Harvey would need a very wet March and I can’t see Sceau Royale, Movewiththetimes or River Wylde being good enough. When you then consider Finians Oscar and Yanworth are more than likely to head towards the JLT, the Arkle isn’t looking as hard to win as it has been in previous years when the likes of Altior, Douvan and Sprinter Sacre rocked up.

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    Much will depend on the ground in March because I suspect Tizzard would be tempted by the Arkle if it’s soft, although Finian’s Oscar is probably better equipped for a JLT.

    There might not be an Altior or Douvan this season but that will surely make the Arkle more competitive. Several contenders have good Cheltenham form, are proven going left handed over fences. Also, has David Mullins ever won a top class 2 miler ? He rode a beauty to win the National but that’s apples and pears in this game.

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    I just wonder with Simon ‘Good to Soft’ Claisse up to his usual watering tricks whether this will be sufficient to secure Finian Oscar’s participation. I agree he would be better suited to the JLT but Tizzard seems quite keen on the kudos of the Arkle.

    Just another thought.. I agree the above comments: this is a weak division. I just wonder whether Mullins won’t rethink about redirecting a horse like Melon to this race. I know he’s said he’s hurdling this season but one can never be sure of where he sends his horses and with a weak Arkle up for grabs who knows.

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    All form makes Bamako Moriviere the best novice chaser outside of Finians Oscar.

    My 20s any race on the horse still looks huge.

    Have a look at his form through the line of Jury Duty.

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    Just had a quick look at the form line and I see your point MOM. My only concern is why they would continue to race him during the summer which happened both this year and last year. Perhaps they think he wants better ground but the best horses don’t tend to get raced in the summer. But I can’t see that being the reason given he just won by 16 lengths on soft ground. He scheduled to run in the Drinmore next so, assuming he runs,we will find out one way or another what he’s made of. Good luck with the bet MOM.

    #1329312
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    I take that back: he’s not in the Drinmore.

    #1329337
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    I think he was but he was pulled

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    What do people make of Sceau Royal as a betting proposition for this? He wasn’t quite top class over hurdles but he’s adapted well to fences. His second to North Hill Harvey at Cheltenham by a nose, whilst giving the winner 5 Ibs, was not a bad run and North Hill Harvey is 12-1 whereas Sceau Royal is over double that at 25-1. He finished ahead of Brain Power in last year’s Champion Hurdle too and Brain Power is 8-1 for this.

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    Great win by Sceau Royal. What happens now with Footpad? Will one of them be re-routed?

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    Unlikely. They ran against each other in the CH no reason they wont in this

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    Quite happy to take the 16’s on Brain Power now. Only his second run compared with the winner who was having his 4th chase. Up there with the top UK chasers already and a bit more to come no doubt. No real reason to push his price out, to be fair to him. :yes:

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    Munier and Souede don’t seem to bothered about having top horses run against each other in big races while having none in others. But I will be surprised if footpad stays at 2 miles. I’d say he is best over 2.5 if not even further.

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    What do people make of Sceau Royal as a betting proposition for this? He wasn’t quite top class over hurdles but he’s adapted well to fences. His second to North Hill Harvey at Cheltenham by a nose, whilst giving the winner 5 Ibs, was not a bad run and North Hill Harvey is 12-1 whereas Sceau Royal is over double that at 25-1. He finished ahead of Brain Power in last year’s Champion Hurdle too and Brain Power is 8-1 for this.

    Nice call. I hope you took some 25s.

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    Great win by Sceau Royal. What happens now with Footpad? Will one of them be re-routed?

    Sceau Royal is a specialist two miler. Footpad stays at least 2 3/4 miles. If they’re both in good form going in to Cheltenham week then I’d expect Footpad to go for the JLT and Sceau Royal Arkle.

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