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Name the two jockeys to have won a race at the Cheltenham Festival and a Classic in the same year.
Jamie Spencer – 2002 Pizarro (Bumper) / Gossamer (Irish 1000 Guineas)
Martin Molony – 1951 Silver Fame (Gold Cup) / Signal Box (Irish 2000 Guineas)
In 1954 Lester Piggott won the Triumph Hurdle on Prince Charlemagne and the Epsom Derby on Never Say Die, however the Triumph was not part of the Festival then (it was run at Hurst Park until 1965, and wouldn’t form part of the Festival until 1968)
I hadn’t picked up on Martin Molony. My second jockey was Aubrey Brabazon who, in fact, performed the feat twice. He won the Gold Cup on Cottage Rake & the Irish Oaks on Masaka in 1948 followed by successes on Cottage Rake (Gold Cup) Hattons Grace (Champion Hurdle) and Mighty Ocean (Irish 2,000 Guineas) in 1950.
Apologies for a flawed question but since I only asked for two, ivanjica, you get the win.
Do you want to set a question?
Concerning the fields for the Kentucky Derby over the years, what happened in more than half the renewals between 1875 & 1902 that could not have happened between 1922 & 1999.
Did Geldings win more than half the renewals between 1875 & 1902 but were banned between 1922 & 1999?
Drone, the answer is not gelding related.
Records prior to 1908 are unreliable but 112 geldings contested the KD between 1908 & 2010 (9 of them being successful).
You’re a fount of knowledge Seasider (smiley)
I’ve really no idea
I’d guess that “could not have” and the twenty-year gap between 1902 and 1922 are key to the answer; but what it is…?
Winners ridden by black jockeys ?
If that was right don’t have a suitably testing question to fire back so please feel free somone to step up.
Cheers I.
It’s always been open to fillies hasn’t it?
Apropos Isinglass’s answer: were Blacks credited as something like AN Other before 1902, banned between 1902 and 1922, credited by surname only up until 1999 (hard to believe admittedly) and given equal recognition only after 2000
Drone, I’m unaware of how black jockeys were credited at various stages of the game. Online records and newspaper articles (one of which inspired this question) may contain further answers but I’ve only delved into the KD. Wikipedia and other sources list the winning jockeys in their records but that doesn’t necessarily mean black jockeys were credited by name on the racecards and in the racing results of the time.
Anyway, isinglass is correct. The first Kentucky Derby of 1875 featured 13 black jockeys out of a total of 15. Of the first 28 winners up to and including Alan-a-Dale in 1902 15 were ridden by black jockeys.
After 1921 no black jockey even rode in the race until Godolphin gave a leg up to Marlon St. Julien on Curule in 2000. The combination finished 7th.
My reading tells me that as segregation became ever more prevalent in the first quarter of the 20th century, black jockeys gradually became ostracised and it became very difficult for them to get rides. Previously, black jockeys were not only acceptable in the sport but in demand.
Such is life.
Up until 1902ish most of the top jockeys were black. If you get the chance read “Wink” , autobiography of Jimmy Winkfield. Won KD two years running then forced out of usa because of his colour. Went to Europe , rode for Polish & Russian royalty/nobility and made a fortune. Then had to march out of Russia , leaving everything behind , but took other folks and horses by foot for hundreds of miles.
Eventually ended up riding in Germany which will have pleased Adolph. Then successful in France until war broke out. Went back in later life to usa and treated like dirt for reasons you can guess – even had to enter a racing hall of fame type do through the back door !!
Back to France to train after the war and ended his days there.
Would make a heck of a film.Sometime in the 1970s a 3-y-o, later to finish second in a Classic, took on an older horse and beat him a neck getting almost 2st.
Name both horses.
Not Vicomte, pilgarlic.
The race in question was run over 15f. The older horse was a proven stayer, having won a major handicap earlier in the year. Both horses went on to win better races in subsequent seasons.
Not too many races stipulated as 15f
No idea who the horses are, so a clue please
Were the races the Lonsdale Stakes, which was if memory serves run over 15f back then, and the St Leger?
Edit: I forgot the 2-stone difference, which all but rules out a Conditions event such as the Lonsdale unless the older horse was a G1/G2 winner perhaps, but I’ll leave my suggestion up anyway (hopeful smiley)
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