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  • #1391895
    Avatar photoDiamondGeezer
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    #1391915
    Avatar photoVautour
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    Yorkhill gets an entry. Strange that with GW saying he was out for teh season

    #1391932
    greenasgrass
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    B365 pushed Bellshill out to 20s. Hope it doesn’t mean his legs have fallen off as I went ahead and took it, as NRNB and 1/4 odds/place.

    Also put a few bob EW on Invitation Only at 100s; they’ll probably look to exploit his handicap mark elsewhere rather than running him here but as it’s NRNB no harm done if he doesn’t go.

    #1391942
    potato
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    January 9, 2019 at 02:50#1391869

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    Just to play devil’s advocate Potato, EE has never won at Cheltenham and has never won a grade 1 event. He was 14 lengths behind Presenting Percy
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    EE has only ran once at cheltenham over fences and it was in the RSA the hottest staying chase for novices in the world.
    This was on the old track, the gold cup is ran on the more testing new track which will suit Elegant Escape more especially over the longer trip that he will encounter in the gold cup.

    Irrelevant of that it was an outstanding Cheltenham festival performance by ‘The Kid’. EE was a 6yo novice surrounded by 7yo and 8yo novices. They were stronger, more developed and a year wiser yet still the Legend himself ran with great power and pride and landed 3rd place. A heroic piece of cheltenham history from the future gold cup winner and an invaluable lesson learnt.

    Yes EE did get unplaced in 2 runs over hurdles.but they were grade 1 and 2 hurdles races and this beast was 4yo and was always a chaser and never a hurdler. So the hurdles defeats are fairly irrelevant but actually very smart form still for a horse who was never a hirdler.

    So will 3m 2 1/2f on the more testing new course suit?

    The team believe 100% that this CD was created for this legend of a horse.

    He may never have won at Cheltenham but as of March 16th 2019 the team have predicted that nobody will ever be able to say those words about this legend again. The boy is going to love this course and has the experience of 2 previous cheltenham festivals in his favour.
    This occasion simply will not phase
    the Legend and he will in fact thrive on it and show the world a career best run and win the gold cup and become a racing sensation.

    In reference to having never won a grade 1 then let me remind everybody that NO HORSE EVER BORN HAD WON A GRADE 1 UNTIL THEY HAD WON A GRADE 1

    The legend has been progressing and developing at a rate of knots. The improvement has been immense and the gold cup winning form is already in the book this season.

    Will be the best that he has ever been on March 15th and in the condition of his life and ready to race.
    The Legend will be invincible in this race. Will be something else.

    So he hasn’t won a grade 1 YET!

    That changes very soon.

    Yes he was 14 lengths behind Presenting Percy but as stated PP was a year older, stronger and more developed.
    Whilst PP has been sat around eating pork pies with his mate sizing john EE has been developing into a true champion and will continue to develop.into an all time great post sensational gold cup victory.

    The Legend is

    READY WILLING AND ABLE

    Presenting Percy will have no answer to the entirely different proposition that is facing him this time.
    More developed and beat a kid.
    The Boy has now become a man and EE will toy with this early peaker if in fact he even turns up.

    TRAINED IN DEVON
    SENT FROM HEAVEN

    THE LEGEND HIMSELF
    GREATEST RACEHORSE OF ALL TIME

    ELEGANT ESCAPE

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

    #1391944
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    Potato, i realise you like Elegant Escape + this is a horse racing forum where people can share their views- but you are mental :good:

    Twitter: Jackh1092
    Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!

    #1391966
    Autumnal
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    It might be tough for him to win it, but I think 50/1 is a fair each way price for Anibale Fly, so he’s my first bet.

    #1392051
    potato
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    THE LEGEND OF ELEGANT ESCAPE

    This is the legend of Elegant Escape, 
    The most beautiful
    racehorse in the world today.
    Potato talks a great deal, and brags indeed-y, 
    of a muscular horse that’s incredibly speed-y.
    The equine world was dull and weary,
    But with a champ like Native River, things had to be dreary.
    Then someone with color and someone with dash, 
    Brought race fans a runnin’ with Cash.
    This brash young chaser is something to see 
    And the gold cup staying championship is his des-tin-y.
    This horse fights great; he’s got speed and endurance,
    But if you try to go with him, increase your insurance.
    This kid’s got a heart; this kid’s got the fight,
    If he looks at you once, you’re asleep for the night.
    And as you lie on the floor while the ref counts ten,
    You’ll pray that you won’t have to race against me again.
    For I am the horse this poem’s about,
    The next gold cup champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt.
    This I predict and I know the score,
    I’ll be champ of the world and then win three more
    When I say tree, they get sat on by birds,

    So don’t bet against me, I’m a horse of my word.
    He is the greatest! Yes!
    I am the horse this poem’s about,
    I’ll be champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt.
    Here I predict Mr. Percys dismemberment,
    I’ll beat him so hard; he’ll wonder where March, October and November went.
    When I say two, there’s never a third,
    Betting against me is completely absurd.
    When Potato says a mouse can outrun a horse,
    Don’t ask how; put your money where your mouse is!
    I AM THE GREATEST

    I AM ELEGANT ESCAPE

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

    #1392054
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Great stuff
    How have you never entered the poem of the year competition, Potato.?
    Reckon you would give Triptych a run for her money… :mail:

    Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026

    #1392069
    Avatar photoLemons68
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    Road To Respect At 12-1 looks a fair price at this stage. If this dry winter continues, that can only be in his favour.

    I also like Clan Des Obeaux At 10-1, that was a great performance in the King George.

    I haven’t bet either of them yet, I will wait till nearer the time.

    #1392209
    potato
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    Desperately seeking Presenting Percy.

    Had 6 races before running at cheltenham festival 2017.

    Had 5 races before running at cheltenham festival 2018.

    Is this horse even going to turn up this year?

    That’s 50/50 I would say.

    Only had 5 chase runs, hasn’t been allowed to develop this season and has a distinct lack of experience going into one of the hottest gold cups for the last 10 years.
    Even if he gets his one chase run round Gowran park against trees before the gold cup he is basically still a novice with just 6 chase starts.

    Fair play to percy he was very forward compared to the other novices last year in the RSA but the other horses have now developed, progressed and are ready to come of age in March.

    I dont think this will turn up but if he does then he will struggle.

    Only 1 novice has won this race in last half century and that was coneygree.
    Lack of experience and development makes percy look one of the worsey priced horses in gold cup history。

    #1392259
    ham
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    Percy isnt a novice potato…

    #1392265
    potato
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    I know that Percy isn’t a novice?

    My point is most novices have more experience than this horse.

    Call him by whatever title you want to officially call him by but ultimately he is a horse who has had 5 chase starts at novice level.

    The reasons why novices almost never win the gold cup is because they lack the chasing experience that is needed to win this race.

    Whatever title you want to give to percy he lacks chasing experience and history shows that those who lack experience struggle in this race.

    So basically Presenting Percy is a novice in all but name was the point that flew over your head ham. :good:

    #1392293
    Mike007
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    Presenting Percy is a machine he will be fine.

    #1392297
    potato
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    Yes a washing machine.

    He will take elegant escape for a SPIN then the legend will show him a CLEAN pair of heels as he says bye bye :bye:

    #1392361
    potato
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    Just been watching Master Oats 1995 gold cup win and it was quite a performance. This must have been the first cheltenham festival I had interest in as I remember it because of Viking Flagship winning.

    This horse had never won a grade 1 race, this was in fact his first run in grade 1 company in the biggest race of all. He had just 3 races that season prior to winning the gold cup and his last run before this stunning victory was winning the welsh national carrying a big weight.
    Doesnt he look good wearing black and yellow silks.
    The most improved horse in training that year.

    Now let’s see what happened ;-)

    :yes: :yes: :yes:

    #1392382
    potato
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    It’s likely that Native River and Clan Des Obeaux will run in the denman chase.
    I probably now consider Clan Des Obeaux as the main danger to Elegant Escape in the gold cup and would expect Clan Des Obeaux to again beat Native River.

    If that happens then will native river even bother turning up in the gold cup on the back of 3 defeats?

    Presenting Percy will soon be double figure odds on the exchange unless he appears from his hiding hole and impresses very soon.

    Looks very plausible that Clan Des Obeaux will soon be favourite for this race.

    #1392387
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    If EE wins, it will be the worst Gold Cup in living memory

    Like having Harbour Pilot win it

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