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Many Clouds was impressive on his comeback. Likely to get the sort of weight as last year however I could see him doing a red rum and winning it more than once.
Sausalito sunrise also seems a good shout
Many Clouds was impressive on his comeback. Likely to get the sort of weight as last year however I could see him doing a red rum and winning it more than once.
Sausalito sunrise also seems a good shout
I’ve a strong suspicion now that 99% horses do not forget their first National, even the winners (you might say, especially the winners). I backed him to follow up, but I now believe the race leaves a scar. Many Clouds might be the exception but last year’s run suggested not. I know his breathing got the blame, but it could well have been he did not fancy that level of exertion again.
Take 40s One For Arthur for the National for it will soon be gone. Tongue Tie has made a real difference and he can only go on from here
Just watched One for Arthurs last 2 runs Joe and how he can be twice the price of ‘Vieux Lion Rouge’ beggars belief.Pipes horse doesn’t get the 41/2m trip where as Lucindas fine looking beast wants it.Paddy Power have let me have £10 e/w at 40/1 this morning on your horse so I’m pleased with that..If the National wasn’t such a tricky race I’d love a £50 e/w dabble but we all know jumping the first our thoughts are..’Why have I bet in this’..
We just want Phil Smith to raise him 10lbs and he’ll be getting a good 17lb off that beast called ‘Native River’ who has the class to carry the weight over the trip,his jumping would be my only concern there though.‘Vieux Lion rouge’ and One For Arthur both trade at the same price of 25/1 now and should both be in contention 3 out come the day we all know who will out stay who..The words Foresight Joe and you used it well pal.Cheers.Realistically the handicapper will raise him 7-8lb which might cut it fine getting in,lets hope not.
Gord, Scu and Fox seem to think the horse will go up enough but I too doubt it. His case would have been much more persuasive had Fox, in what was otherwise a fine ride, not whacked him so much on the run-in.
Take 40s One For Arthur for the National for it will soon be gone. Tongue Tie has made a real difference and he can only go on from here
We just want Phil Smith to raise him 10lbs
Good old Phil,we’re here to help
.147 gets One for Arthur in this years Grand National now and he’ll be fav before you know it JoeHe’ll tumble on the day, Gord with big support from Scotland – there’ll be plenty of features in the Scottish media.
Also, a classic example of a plunge name – anyone with a relative called Arthur, dead or alive, will back him. Great back to lay.
Gord, Scu and Fox seem to think the horse will go up enough but I too doubt it. His case would have been much more persuasive had Fox, in what was otherwise a fine ride, not whacked him so much on the run-in.
Did you think he had that much left in the tank to take it easy? I thought if anything the runner up was closing again. Quite a difference between 3m5f and 4m4f and I don’t think it is a given that the extra distance will be in his favour. As I said I think he will handle a quicker surface but chances are the front runners will not come back to him as easily as they did at Warwick.
I think one smack and ridden out would have been enough.
I think he’ll stay all right (4m 2 and a bit these days). Key thing is he’ll be a fair bit shorter and should be a bet to nothing for those happy to lay.
Fence experience, jumps, probably stays, improving and could improve quite a bit beyond ‘normal’ if the tongue tie continues to work (though the breathing weakness is a concern).
I think he’ll stay all right (4m 2 and a bit these days). Key thing is he’ll be a fair bit shorter and should be a bet to nothing for those happy to lay.
Nice to have caught up. Is there anything they can just leave alone? Mind you I wouldn’t have minded a couple of yards shorter the year Sunnyhillboy got pipped.
Mind you I wouldn’t have minded a couple of yards shorter the year Sunnyhillboy got pipped.
Me too.
Mind you I wouldn’t have minded a couple of yards shorter the year Sunnyhillboy got pipped.
Me too.
I put Sunnyhill Boy up on here at 40/1 with confidence, only to be mugged by a Geezer with Ginger hair..I still hate watching that race.
Mind you I wouldn’t have minded a couple of yards shorter the year Sunnyhillboy got pipped.
Me too.
I put Sunnyhill Boy up on here at 40/1 with confidence, only to be mugged by a Geezer with Ginger hair..I still hate watching that race.
As do i – that was painful
Last year was my first attempt at an ante-post stab at the National, where I was on Holywell at triple figure prices, and that ended pretty quickly on the day, with him falling at the second.
I’ve had another go this year, and am hopefully on a sounder bet. Cause Of Causes ran in the race as a 7yo in 2015, hacked around at the rear of the field and was never put in the race. I wouldn’t put it past Gordon Elliott to have ran him for the experience, with another crack a the race down the line in the back of his mind.
He was a 14/1 shot for the race last year but didn’t get into the race off mark of 142 but he should have no such problems this season, currently on an Irish rating of 148. He’s been excellently targeted at the Chetenham Festival for the past four seasons but I reckon, while he will likely run in one of the handicaps, that the Grand National is his main aim for the season and 40/1 won’t last.
Good man Tommy, I’m very pleased to see you get behind him. I’ve been chipping away at him since the day after last years race, and very, very hopeful.
My #1 Rule when picking my National Horse, is to go with a horse who hasn’t ran in it before, and though he took in that 2015 Race, it shouldn’t have left it’s mark with him, after he, as you mentioned, was never put in the race. It really was a shocker of a ride, but I’ve got over it now (almost lol).
I’m with you on the handicap route, and hoping he’ll go for The 3 Miler, but I don’t think there’s any doubt that The National will be the aim, and I’m fairly confident he can go closer than 2 years ago.
We just want Phil Smith to raise him 10lbs and he’ll be getting a good 17lb off that beast called ‘Native River’ who has the class to carry the weight over the trip,his jumping would be my only concern there though.
.147 gets One for Arthur in this years Grand National now and he’ll be fav before you know it Joe
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