2015 Cheltenham Gold Cup

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    Roddy Owen
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    Sprinter Sacre anyone? :lol:

    I doubt

    sprinter Sacre

    will even set foot on a racecourse again never mind win a Gold cup!

    I think from Nickys comment this morning he will be back for the Tingle Creek, thankfully . And as this is SDG `s target could be quite a race

    #489590
    KingSprinterSacre
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    Sprinter Sacre anyone? :lol:

    I doubt

    sprinter Sacre

    will even set foot on a racecourse again never mind win a Gold cup!

    Wash your filthy mouth out!

    Take the 3s on a usually 1/4 shot to win the Champion chase, because that’s what hes going to be after the tingle creek.

    #490779

    Anonymous
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    I hope Boston Bob gets his chance in this next year

    #490788
    KingSprinterSacre
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    I hope Boston Bob gets his chance in this next year

    me too – when he puts in a clean round hes always there or there abouts. I fancy him for this.

    #491617
    steeplechasing
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    Bobs Worth seems exceptional value at 10/1.

    He seems to have been written off by many on the strength of one poor run (a stone below his previous Gold Cup performance). He has been a tricky horse to train, and I suspect that Henderson is still learning with him, odd as that might seem.

    He’s a top class horse with superb festival form, and he’s relatively lightly raced. Get stuck in at 10s.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

    #491669
    The Ante-Post King
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    Bobs Worth seems exceptional value at 10/1.

    He seems to have been written off by many on the strength of one poor run (a stone below his previous Gold Cup performance). He has been a tricky horse to train, and I suspect that Henderson is still learning with him, odd as that might seem.

    He’s a top class horse with superb festival form, and he’s relatively lightly raced. Get stuck in at 10s.

    Joe,you are a good judge but not this time mate.’Bobs Worth’ is totally exposed and will be 10yo come March so there isn’t a pound improvement to be had from him.Admittedly there doesn’t need to be but at the prices I think

    Holywell

    also a 10/1 chance is that short because he’s a horse who has masses of improvement.Should both run in the Hennessey Bobs Worth gets 11-10 whilst Holywell gets 10-00 stone,if my fellow doesn’t beat yours by 15 length in that I’ll concede to your wiser knowledge. :wink:

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    thehorsesmouth
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    Bobs Worth seems exceptional value at 10/1.

    He seems to have been written off by many on the strength of one poor run (a stone below his previous Gold Cup performance). He has been a tricky horse to train, and I suspect that Henderson is still learning with him, odd as that might seem.

    He’s a top class horse with superb festival form, and he’s relatively lightly raced. Get stuck in at 10s.

    Joe,you are a good judge but not this time mate.’Bobs Worth’ is totally exposed and will be 10yo come March so there isn’t a pound improvement to be had from him.Admittedly there doesn’t need to be but at the prices I think

    Holywell

    also a 10/1 chance is that short because he’s a horse who has masses of improvement.Should both run in the Hennessey Bobs Worth gets 11-10 whilst Holywell gets 10-00 stone,if my fellow doesn’t beat yours by 15 length in that I’ll concede to your wiser knowledge. :wink:

    If Bobs Worth and Holywell meet in the Hennessy with Bobs Worth on 11-10, Holywell would carry 11-01.

    Bobs Worth was bitterly disappointing on two of his three starts last season and would much prefer Holywell of the two for the Gold Cup. I was in the Bobs camp last year but as you say Gord he’s not getting any younger and could be vulnerable to an improving type such as Holywell.

    Back to the Hennessy, and the slight concern I’d have about Holywell is the fact that Jonjo will probably have him firing on all cylinders for one day only and that will be in March.

    If Bobs Worth runs, Djakadam will get in off 10-00. That is surely an attractive proposition for Team Closutton.

    #491672
    The Ante-Post King
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    If Bobs Worth and Holywell meet in the Hennessy with Bobs Worth on 11-10, Holywell would carry 11-01.

    Sorry Tommy you are quite right,I was working to 180 Bob, 157 Holy,!! :oops: :oops:

    #491686

    harvey2000
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    Having just watched last years gold cup again I can’t help thinking there was something slightly amiss. Can’t put my finger on it, but perhaps the ground after the last fence was better stand side? It’s funny how the two leading horses in the market, ratings, one won the previous gold cup and the other travelling well before falling, were both a good couple of lengths ahead at the last, both had already past Boston Bob, and three horses rated fairly inferior sped by to fight out the finish. It looks like they both fell in a hole far side of the track.
    Silviniaco Conti won the King George because he stayed, Bobs Worth won the previous Gold Cup because he stayed, so I don’t but into the fact they both ran a stone below par. They were both in front jumping the last, then got swamped on the run in.
    Something doesn’t sit right for some reason, I could be talking jibberish, but just saying what I see.
    I don’t think come March either of these two horses will be outside the first three in the market, and certainly don’t see either out of the first four.
    If Paul Nicholls says Silviniaco Conti wasn’t finishing his races off last year and they have put that right, he must have a huge chance of winning this time around, especially if Fehily holds him up a bit longer. At 12/1 I think he represents a decent bet.

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    Fingal Bay one to keep on side.

    #493776
    JJMSports
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    Le Bec and Many Clouds too big at 50s with Stans imo.

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    The Ante-Post King
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    Le Bec and Many Clouds too big at 50s with Stans imo.

    Many Clouds

    is the 1st son of ‘Bobbing Back’ the dams only other progeny is

    The Tullow Tank

    a proper 2 miler but Oliver Sherwoods charge is a son of the very average ‘Cloudings’.The sires most successful breeding created

    Cloudy Lane

    but I can see your selection being a Welsh National sort JJM,obviously these types go on to be Gold cup horses too.50/1 is big I agree but he doesn’t have the pace of

    Holywell

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    Le Bec

    incidentally got one fence further than

    Many Clouds

    in the RSA and both horses were still in contention,The very handsome

    Don Cossack

    gives the collateral form of both excellent credentials but again this fellow wont cope with

    Holywell

    when he’s tuned up.

    #494158
    befair
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    Some clues today; S Conti going backwards, Road to Riches and Don Cossack in the picture

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    The Young Fella
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    Agree with Silviniaco Conti going backwards, but it’s a bit reactive to look too favourably on Don Cossack given his usual disinterested attitude and Road To Riches being one of the only fit horses in his race.

    Now’s the time for Holywell and Boston Bob bets. Unless they fall next time up, I doubt they’ll get this long in the Gold Cup market before the off.

    #494872

    Peruvian Chief
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    Le Bec and Many Clouds too big at 50s with Stans imo.

    Many Clouds

    is the 1st son of ‘Bobbing Back’ the dams only other progeny is

    The Tullow Tank

    a proper 2 miler but Oliver Sherwoods charge is a son of the very average ‘Cloudings’.The sires most successful breeding created

    Cloudy Lane

    but I can see your selection being a Welsh National sort JJM,obviously these types go on to be Gold cup horses too.50/1 is big I agree but he doesn’t have the pace of

    Holywell

    .
    This

    Le Bec

    incidentally got one fence further than

    Many Clouds

    in the RSA and both horses were still in contention,The very handsome

    Don Cossack

    gives the collateral form of both excellent credentials but again this fellow wont cope with

    Holywell

    when he’s tuned up.

    Au contraire, I doubt we will see The Tullow Tank over less than 2.5m ever again. A quality stayer.

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