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April 30, 2022 at 15:51 #1596375
I’ll have a few bites of that too
April 30, 2022 at 15:53 #15963763x Group 1 horses there I reckon. Luxembourg will go a silly price for the Derby now. Will he stay?
April 30, 2022 at 15:54 #1596377I don’t know much about horses but the Godolphin horses stood out from the others. Ken Pitterson said the winner looked as though he’d come on from the run. Chuffed for James Doyle.
April 30, 2022 at 15:55 #1596378Wd winners
April 30, 2022 at 16:04 #1596381I’d be confident Luxembourg will do better at the Derby trip, TTM…
But will he handle the Derby course?
He’s a gangly, awkward moving individual.
Value Is EverythingApril 30, 2022 at 16:12 #1596383Native ran a cracker to be so close from that draw , if they met again I’d fancy him to reverse the form , Perfect Power twice ran into a wall and while he wouldn’t have got near the he front 2 he,s a horse I’m going to continue to follow as there,s plenty more to come
April 30, 2022 at 16:15 #1596384That’ll do me nicely
Have a feeling that will turn out to be a very good renewal
April 30, 2022 at 16:16 #1596385A first and second for the individual who arranged for his daughter to be abducted on the streets of Cambridge.
Nice.
April 30, 2022 at 18:08 #1596406I wouldn’t be certain Luxembourg will stay, at least my confidence wouldn’t be at the level his price will be on the day unless we get an impressive trial winner. Didn’t Saxon Warrior go off odds on for his Derby? Didnt stay, had a middle distance pedigree on paper and should have improved on what he did at a mile. Doesn’t bother me if hes a silly price just helps make the market somewhere else. I could be wrong about his price but in this game when everone sees something particularly the casuals they follow it like sheep and theres no value even if they’re correct.
April 30, 2022 at 18:12 #1596407Well the evil stat cast it’s shadow again and this time it fell on Native Trail, but he ran a cracker of a race and great to see a very emotional James Doyle get hus Guineas at last after being touched off on a few good horsess in past years including Kingman beaten by shock winner Night Of Thunder.
It was a very good result with Eydon taking 4th place all placed horses look to have a lot more to offer.
Well done to all who backed Coroebus and the placed horses.
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...April 30, 2022 at 19:31 #1596414Anybody guess who will turn out to be the best of the front three. I suspect there won’t be much between the front two in the future. Luxembourg looked like he was going to be close then seemed to lose momentum. As has been said will be very short for the Derby now. As a Derby tial goes that was excellent. Not sure how far the first two will stay but suspect the winner will stay at a mile and they might try native trail over 10 furlongs. Seemed a top notch renewal but time will tell.
April 30, 2022 at 20:54 #1596421I got the 2022 Guineas wrong – kudos to those who got it right.
I think it was a perfectly-acceptable 2,000 Guineas in terms of quality and the winner may well improve.
I think that’s as good as Native Trail is, though.
I think Luxembourg (by Derby winner Camelot out of a full sister to a 1m4f winner and half brother to two other 1m4f winners) is a nailed-on, tub-thumping, moral certainty to be in his element at 1m4f.
He’s finished third over a now inadequate mile today despite so much going wrong (dwelt, stumbled, outpaced, you name it) and reminds me so much of Australia, also third at Newmarket.
Unless something sensational emerges in the Chester Vase, Lingfield Derby Trial or Dante, Luxembourg will be 6/4 favourite on Epsom Downs, where he will win by half the track.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"May 1, 2022 at 04:47 #1596460Nothing definite of any horse staying the Derby trip because of the pedigree but everything suggests luxembourg being at his best over the Derby distance. Just wish aiden had gone Chester vase then we would know for definite. Mind you if he scooted up in that he’d been long odds on forth Derby
May 1, 2022 at 10:44 #1596469Lost nothing as didn’t bet, but couldn’t see Native Trail beat. He ran well from his draw in the end i suspect.
Eydon ran well also for one so inexperienced!
Well done winners.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 1, 2022 at 18:40 #1596563Don’t see the draw as a disadvantage, Jack.
Possibly would’ve been had the front runner come to the stand rail, but they went up the centre.
If looking at the Dewhurst, Native Trail didn’t seem to like being in amongst horses, so being on the outer – for him – should imo be an advantage.Value Is EverythingMay 1, 2022 at 20:09 #1596592I actually think Newmarket is probably going to be native trails worst type of track despite him winning the dewhurst and craven and finishing second in the guineas
He’s so big and ungainly and keeps changing legs and gets unbalanced in the undulations
He will be better on less undulating tracks I’d say
Whether he will reverse the form with the winner however I doubt
Doyle could probably have held onto him even longer
May 2, 2022 at 23:11 #1596756I think the results over the three days do suggest there might have been a draw bias.
But I’d still be keener on Coroebus at a mile than Native Trail going forwards.
I will be faintly amazed if Luxembourg isn’t better at 1m4f than he was at a mile on Saturday.
Camelot was clearly better at The Derby trip and Luxembourg is a half brother to two 1m4f winners out of a dam who is a full sister to a 1m4f winner.
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