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- April 9, 2015 at 11:17 #877164
doubts about High Celebrity,held up by a back problem
April 9, 2015 at 12:17 #877283doubts about High Celebrity,held up by a back problem
I read earlier in the year that she was going to take in one of the trials but that this was scrapped in favour of a racecourse gallop. Andre Fabre has said that the original gallop plan has been shelved but that he remains hopeful that another gallop can be arranged and that High Celebrity may still run in the 1000 Guineas.
There doesn’t seem to be the odds being offered that would set the full alarm signals off yet.
Fadhayyil has been trimmed in from the last if the 20/1 available. Must have been my 25p ew that caused that

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 9, 2015 at 12:35 #877304fair comments steve,just wonder though,with back problems wether they will send her over,after doubts about her in the dip last season
April 9, 2015 at 15:00 #877361fair comments steve,just wonder though,with back problems wether they will send her over,after doubts about her in the dip last season
It is a concern and sometimes you wonder with trainers if they are trying to build their own hopes up as much as anything by remaining positive about a less than ideal situation. There is slight doubt for me with her being up to winning the Guineas but I thought the same about Miss France last year and was all wrong.
I am much more confident that I’ll get a run for my money with Fadhayyil this season than I was about anything in last year’s renewal. I am hoping she’ll work well at Newmarket next week.
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April 13, 2015 at 19:57 #885053I’m quite tempted to have a few quid on Lady Correspondent before the Nell Gwynn on Wednesday. I thought she was hugely impressive in her maiden last year and showed a smart turn of foot. The form of that race is not great, the 2nd went on to win a maiden, whilst the rest of the field have done very little.
I’m really looking forward to Wednesday’s race, she likely has to win this to stand a chance of heading to the Guineas. It’s quite a good looking race with likes of Osaila, Beautiful Romance and dark horse Terror to name a few.
I would expect a half decent pace here with likes of Marsh Hawk, Mubtaaqa and the good turn of foot Lady Correspondent shower in her maiden was from off a slow pace that day. I think the 20/1 on offer now could look a tasty price on Wednesday evening.
April 13, 2015 at 20:52 #885095I’m quite tempted to have a few quid on Lady Correspondent before the Nell Gwynn on Wednesday. I thought she was hugely impressive in her maiden last year and showed a smart turn of foot. The form of that race is not great, the 2nd went on to win a maiden, whilst the rest of the field have done very little.
I’m really looking forward to Wednesday’s race, she likely has to win this to stand a chance of heading to the Guineas. It’s quite a good looking race with likes of Osaila, Beautiful Romance and dark horse Terror to name a few.
I would expect a half decent pace here with likes of Marsh Hawk, Mubtaaqa and the good turn of foot Lady Correspondent shower in her maiden was from off a slow pace that day. I think the 20/1 on offer now could look a tasty price on Wednesday evening.
Shop around for Lady Correspondent seethesun. She is 33/1 in a good few places, notably Ladbrokes.
She’s a promising sort and I gave her some serious consideration before siding with stable mate Jellicle Ball instead.
Jellicle Ball is entered in the Fred Darling but I’m not sure if she is a certain runner by any means. For a filly touted as more of an Oaks type by some people, the 7f would seem short enough but she’s Gosden’s only entry in the race and I;ll be delighted if she runs, as you would take it as a sign that a good run would see her contest the Guineas.
I actually preferred the idea of backing Lady Correspondent at 7/1 for the Nell Gwyn, rather than the Guineas. To me the field has mostly exposed runners and the one I fear most, Beautiful Romance, is dropping back in trip and has the curse of the Godolphin to overcome. They have had a lean time with this type of filly of late and I know they had high hopes on Folk Melody going into last season, only for her to disappoint a few times.
My thinking is that Lady Correspondent can win this but I’m not so sure about the Guineas. I’d probably have backed her but I’ve already taken Jellicle Ball at 40/1 so can’t really dive in again. Interesting sort.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 13, 2015 at 21:13 #885153Cheers Steve.
Definite weakness of mine is not shopping around. I have a couple of accounts, one with B365 and the other on exchanges.
I never shop around on price,mainly cos I get so annoyed if I miss the bigger SP and best odds guaranteed with b365 means they get vast majority of my business.
Though not relevant from ante post perspective, but I have gone in on the 20s which is annoying now I know much bigger prices around! Oh well, my own fault, it tells me I need another account option!
Hopefully she does the business on Wednesday. Godolphin horse demands respect, always happy to take them to be honest. Terror is the one who keeps catching my eye as a big danger, the 4th behind Tiggy Wiggy was quite a good performance for an inexperienced horse and I thought Hughes turned that into a sharp sprint off slowish fractions for 6f,the step up in trip should suit her.
Osaila sets good standard, but is beatable. Marsh Hawk looks like it needs soft ground and think she was flattered on couple of occasions last season. Trip looks perfect for Mubtaaqa , but just don’t think she will be quite good enough and does not travel as well as some of these. New Provenance is interesting, I just wonder if 6f is more up her street long term.
I’m finding myself more and more confident for Wednesday
April 13, 2015 at 21:18 #885157Sorry above should read Muraaqaba not Mubtaaqa
April 13, 2015 at 21:34 #885175Cheers Steve.
Definite weakness of mine is not shopping around. I have a couple of accounts, one with B365 and the other on exchanges.
I never shop around on price,mainly cos I get so annoyed if I miss the bigger SP and best odds guaranteed with b365 means they get vast majority of my business.
Though not relevant from ante post perspective, but I have gone in on the 20s which is annoying now I know much bigger prices around! Oh well, my own fault, it tells me I need another account option!
Hopefully she does the business on Wednesday. Godolphin horse demands respect, always happy to take them to be honest. Terror is the one who keeps catching my eye as a big danger, the 4th behind Tiggy Wiggy was quite a good performance for an inexperienced horse and I thought Hughes turned that into a sharp sprint off slowish fractions for 6f,the step up in trip should suit her.
Osaila sets good standard, but is beatable. Marsh Hawk looks like it needs soft ground and think she was flattered on couple of occasions last season. Trip looks perfect for Mubtaaqa , but just don’t think she will be quite good enough and does not travel as well as some of these. New Provenance is interesting, I just wonder if 6f is more up her street long term.
I’m finding myself more and more confident for Wednesday

New Providence was third in the Rockfel behind Lucida and Fadhayyil and might have got the nod from me at 10/1 with Corals but she’s had six runs now and, as you say, 7f at Newmarket may not be ideal. Should be a good and informative contest.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 14, 2015 at 07:04 #886024for the Nell Gwyn i will be siding with the tough and consistent Osaila,think she falls short of winning the Gns,but at 5s is mye/w play in the race
April 14, 2015 at 13:50 #886486for the Nell Gwyn i will be siding with the tough and consistent Osaila,think she falls short of winning the Gns,but at 5s is mye/w play in the race
She’s a contender for certain but I think the stable were a little disappointed with her the first couple of outings last year and although she did me a favour in the Tattersalls Millions when I thought she was a good thing at odds against, she was a bit less emphatic in landing the eventual 4/5 odds than I had anticipated. She’s had seven runs so is battle hardened but from a scope point of view there are questions.
The Hannon stable were going really well in March, with a 29% strike rate, but that has roughly halved this month to about 15% and it’s been a mixed sort of bag with this type of horse for them.
New Providence may skip the Nell Gwyn in favour of the Fred Darling according to the trainer. If she lines up in the latter race I hope she will run into Jellicle Ball, who has Ryan Moore jocked up, so I am hoping that means the Gosden filly will be running.
Lady Correspondent has been nibbled in from 33/1 ahead of her seasonal reappearance but I think she would have to win the trial really well to jump further up the pecking order for the big day.
Tiggy Wiggy is also entered in the Fred Darling on Saturday and that would be a mighty tough nut for Jellicle Ball to go up against. The Hannon star has Hughes jocked up and she will start red hot in the betting if lining up. The seventh furlong will be the question and it will only partly answer the equation of the Newmarket mile on Guineas day. If Jellicle Ball can get reasonably close over 7f I am hoping connections will feel they have some sort of chance going over the longer trip. It is a mighty ask but I was taken with Jellicle Ball’s sole start and 40/1 for a bit of fun appealed more than lumping on a 3/1 fav who goes there without a run and who’s stable had two of their more likely Derby sorts turned well over at the weekend.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 14, 2015 at 14:59 #886567TBF steve her second run did come in the Albany(winner of that Cursory Glance) when she ran a fair race imo,as she was racing a little away from the ‘real’ action early.I am really playing her as she seems tough and consistent,while on the downside others may progress past her.
April 14, 2015 at 15:08 #886585I had a few vouchers on Marsh Hawk Ante Post before her defeat in the fillies mile. She looked quick enough and finished her races well but after the fillies mile I have nagging doubts about her staying but she’s entered up in this so the yard haven’t lost faith and I hope she runs a big race in the Nell Gwyn.
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April 14, 2015 at 16:45 #886673TBF steve her second run did come in the Albany(winner of that Cursory Glance) when she ran a fair race imo,as she was racing a little away from the ‘real’ action early.I am really playing her as she seems tough and consistent,while on the downside others may progress past her.
I remember Hannon junior saying he was a bit disappointed at the time, but as you say, it was probably a hotter contest than they may have anticipated at the time with Cursory Glance being one of the leading Guineas lights before her setback.
Just a nag about the Breeders Cup run, which I’d forgotten about, and which was her 7th start. It was on firm ground at Santa Anita and some of the recent juvenile winners, and horses who have run well, from the UK at the US meeting, under those conditions, have come back at 3yo and seemed to regress, George Vancouver and Outstrip being a couple of examples.
It’s quite a tricky race to call and I notice Timeform have sided with Osaila for the five stars and the selection, whereas Lady Correspondent doesn’t make the 1-2-3 for them.
I can see the Timeform logic there, with Lady Correspondent having to improve to reach the level the others are already at.
What I can’t understand is that her stable mate Golden Horn is in exactly the same position in the Fielden Stakes, as the once race horse of potential, going up against more exposed but higher rated opponents, yet he rates the five stars and the selection for the race.
Surely if you have a methodology for picking likely winners you apply the same logic to each race, rather than mix and match? They have rated Lady Correspondent with the big P, so it’s not as if they see her as less likely to improve than Golden Horn.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 14, 2015 at 17:15 #886830yep can see why some are against Osaila had a tough year,up against some well regarded lightly raced sorts,but hoping i’ll at least fall in the frame.
April 15, 2015 at 10:33 #888562High Celebrity it out of the 1000 Guineas and the French 1000 as well. She is hoped to be coming back for the summer but her earlier setback means she misses Newmarket.
Fellow French raider Erveyda seems to have been clipped in a little now.
Bar the favourite Found it looks a race wide open for a springer and perhaps something will emerge this week. Lady Correspondent has been trimmed in and we’ll see where she sits at about 4.15 today.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 15, 2015 at 15:25 #888884yep can see why some are against Osaila had a tough year,up against some well regarded lightly raced sorts,but hoping i’ll at least fall in the frame.
Well done with Osaila, I thought something would improve past her but she held on.
No show from Lady Correspondent and it’s not been a good day for team Gosden so far. Perhaps another from the stable who won’t be going to the Classic now.
I was tempted a little by New Providence at 10/1 and glad I didn’t bite as it would have been a galling one. She’s done the Rockfel no harm and my 1000 Guineas hope Fadhayyil got a wee boost in the process.
Nothing to make Found fans nervous so far.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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