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Yes Ian but you would at least expect broadcasters of the sport to ask the The Coc to justify his watering. Unlikely but he may well have a good reason.
As ITV don’t bother with the Coc and don’t bother to mention any watering they probably don’t give a monkey’s anyway, although they do seem keen on sectional times without much explanation, though Richard Hoiles does make occasional comment on them. Why he bothers is a mystery as sectional times are of little interest to the casual viewer, who we are told they are aiming their coverage at.You would think though that Racing TV and the likes of Lydia Hislop & Nick Luck would at least ask the question. Tom Stanley failed miserably when interviewing Prosser.
“I backed Royal Scotsman, I’ve only watched it once. I thought Royal Scotsman lost his position early and that’s what cost him more than the finish”
Ran a remarkable race as he never settled and pulled far too hard, not to mention the interference from LBB. As Weaver said, he wont fulfil his potential unless he learns to settle.
Might be worth a pop at the Commonwealth Cup although they will probably prefer the St James Palace.“It all sounds the same to me
Chamberlain finished off by saying “call him what you like”Ed’s always correcting others for their pronunciation but gets plenty wrong himself and why does he keep calling Will Buick, Will Biddick?

Does anyone know why Michael Prosser put 4mm of water on Newmarket’s mile track 2 days ago?
Was little or no rain forecast?
The MO of Coc’s these days appears to be –
If little or no rain forecast – Water.
If there’s a 50/50 chance of significant rain – Water.
If there’s plenty of rain forecast – Water.
Ian,
I don’t feel qualified to criticise or praise something if I haven’t seen or heard it although this doesn’t seem to hold you back. Think you’ve more posts than most on this thread despite you not tuning in to any of the coverage

Since cutting back entirely on betting due to the aggravation and lily-livered bookmakers I am more than happy to rely on ITV coverage even if some of the presenters and pundits are crap. I don’t want 24/7 coverage, both the satellite channels leave a lot to be desired and I wouldn’t be paying for them anymore, although I do watch some FTA.
I’v never watched a race on a phone and never will, split screen is bad enough and I immediately lose interest in what I’m watching when it kicks in.
“She is such a terrible presenter. She is just rubbing it everytime about the William’s little girl and every is “the great”.”
Crepello, that’s Plunkett doing the paddock who keeps coming up with “The Great” at numerous owners, trainers, jockeys and horses time after time. It really is quite tedious.
When Cumani appeared last week, if she were a horse I would describe her performance as very ring rusty and may come on for the run but that is doubtful as she is quite poor.When Ed Chamberlin stated what he thought was the big negative in Kitty’s Light chances yesterday, I thought he may come up with him being tired after last weeks efforts, maybe his jumping or the ground but no it was none of them. The little nugget was that the favourite hadn’t won the “Whitbread” for the last 23 years. Very useful stat that, thanks for that bit of useless, irrelevant information Ed.
It is common place for this flat meeting to be over watered and the COC to describe it as good to firm (good in places) but it to actually be good to soft.
Hard to believe the track was watered this week, no wonder the flat meeting was abandoned.Absolutely disgusting that little if anything has been done about advertising.
Racing and more importantly punters are being penalised for racing continually being in bed with bookmakers.
Racing fully deserves it but punters don’t.
Don’t know how much it matters but the bit I saw of Lucy Frazer, she seemed to lack knowledge of the subject.Of course as BigG says it makes no sense to turn down 4.45 and prefer 3.00 when 5.30 wasn’t possible.
Surely it should have been foreseen as the match taking place was hardly likely to be the only high risk category combination. eg Liverpool v Man Utd/City, Arsenal v Spurs/Chelsea etc.As daft as it may sound Nathan could well be right that ITV, once they couldn’t have 5.30 thought 3.00 was the better bet as they could have the best of both worlds and their usual Saurday night dross unaffected, especially as they knew racing would bend over and give them what they want.
Think Rock of Gibraltar’s Guineas was run at half time in the cup final, not that they were on the same channel but just another crap decision from racing’s rulers. Although the race was off 7 minutes late so probably didn’t work out anyway.
Of course an evening Derby, although preferable to a lunchtime one would be ruled out by Ant & Dec etc.Surely they must have been aware that the World Cup was being played when it was, some time ago and that the Derby was taking place on cup final day.
They needed to show some initiative, after all the Derby has even taken place in May.
I get the feeling that Julie Harrington can’t wait to get away from the sport, she will be no loss. Who actually chooses and appoints these people?Racing’s rulers are to blame not ITV.
Race on the Wednesday and no FA Cup final or train strike and not loads of other race meetings on the same day, as well as other sporting attractions.Dave Yates just suggested half time would have been a possibility if the times could have been guaranteed
Although he did seem to think one half of football was only 40 mins.The worst value of all each way has to be ante-post each way. The number of pundits and so called “experts” who put them up is a joke. Surely they can’t be backing them?
Like The Ebor, should never have been moved from the Wednesday.
April 25, 2023 at 16:00 in reply to: John Gosden is the boss – the Italian fellow just an employee #1645366“I’m not one for pre retirement announcements for sportsmen/women.. a sign of weakness in my view and a strange mind set.”
Not necessarily, wouldn’t have considered AP McCoy weak and thought it worked very well for him.
“You get the occasional each-way “thieving” opportunity when there’s an odds-on fav and the “dead eight,” or extended places and an overbroke place book means there’s an edge, but the overall odds (which includes to win) are compressed.”
Who do you get these bets on with Ian?
CAS, Tweed trained by Willie Haggas was beaten at 2/13, 10 years ago in a handicap but I suspect there might have been “shorter” but no sp was returned due to betting tax.
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