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April 23, 2023 at 18:30 #1645161
My mistake Cork. Chaldean always felt like a John Gosden trained horse….
April 23, 2023 at 18:36 #1645164No one (except Gladders) can pronounce his name right, a few here don’t seem to know who trains him, he unseats at the start of the Greenham – Dewhurst winner Chaldean is a riddle wrapped in an enigma.
What’s next?
A TRF gamble on this John Gosden or Ralph Beckett (but never Andrew Balding) filly (who is actually a colt) for the 1,000 Guineas?
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 23, 2023 at 21:44 #1645180Is this jackass the same fellow that has won 21 British Classics, 7 King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes and 6 Prix de l’Arc de Triumphs?
April 24, 2023 at 12:42 #1645212I wouldn’t call him a jackass but every jockey has a sell by date
has Dettori reached his? well he is retiring soon..I’m not one for pre retirement announcements for sportsmen/women.. a sign of weakness in my view and a strange mind set.
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April 24, 2023 at 13:16 #1645214Agree. It was a strange thing to announce. Now if he rides a bad race, he is going to get lots of criticism along the lines of “he should have retired right away”. It has created unnecessary pressure.
April 24, 2023 at 21:53 #1645276I suppose the chance to milk his “farewell tour” was just too tempting (for him and ITV Racing).
April 24, 2023 at 22:11 #1645278I’d say Tonge has just about called it spot on.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 25, 2023 at 15:22 #1645354Its already started..
https://www.attheraces.com/news/2023/April/25/dettori-looks-on-in-awe-at-unveiling-of-epsom-mural
I love the flat but this Frankie this, Frankie that every week will make it tough viewing
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April 25, 2023 at 16:00 #1645366“I’m not one for pre retirement announcements for sportsmen/women.. a sign of weakness in my view and a strange mind set.”
Not necessarily, wouldn’t have considered AP McCoy weak and thought it worked very well for him.
April 25, 2023 at 16:02 #1645367More a sign of sensing a commercial opportunity, I’d say.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"April 25, 2023 at 16:52 #1645373How many “farewell tours” have Status Quo done!!!
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysApril 25, 2023 at 17:22 #1645378Frankie and the media will certainly cream everything out of it
and then when its finally all over …. Frankie will rock up on ITV racing as part of the presenting team week in, week outOn McCoy I got the impression he may have continued but after all the documentary, weekly fawning and his Wife likely to kill him probably thought better of it..
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May 1, 2023 at 17:35 #1646276Mr Dettori rode the winner of the Italian 2000 Guineas today. Can he double up on Chaldean on Saturday? Assuming he can stay on board. 😉
He loves to write his own scripts! Only Frankie could win the Italian 2000 Guineas to give his home country a big celebration on his farewell tour 🤩 🇮🇹@TVG https://t.co/dcaZcyqDIM
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June 23, 2024 at 14:58 #1699746I bet Mr. Gosden would like to see the Italian fellow back on a few of his horses again.
It isn’t quite the season you would expect from him (or rather them), but he has yet to blame someone for that. Still, the numbers including the prize-money aren’t that bad.September 11, 2024 at 23:09 #1706798Just comparing prize-money earned in 2024:
Johnny and Thady have earned £3,068,716 so far in GB
Lanfranco has earned his owners at least twice as much in 2024. He was at around the £4 million mark some three months ago.I think Frankie got this one right….
September 12, 2024 at 09:29 #1706811He’s currently at $10.6M for 2024, from 355 rides and 62 winners.
September 12, 2024 at 10:59 #1706815Thanks for the update, Alan. He seems completely relaxed as if there is no pressure at all on him.
Of course the higher prize-money puts him in that category, but you still have to earn that much and a 17% strike-rate is quite in the US. -
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