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These folks always have plenty Loubird. Updated regular and have many coming in quite often. There has been a few recognisable names with them too.
I would trust Ruby Walsh’s judgement on the matter to be honest.
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9.9 times out of 10 so would I John. I’m not beating up here on Ruby but I just think it wasn’t the wisest move, bit of the been there and done it before and oh dear whoops he’s out for a season injured now(Exeter 2005). Anyway, just glad they both came home in one piece and fit to fight another day that’s the main thing, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

all I can say is thank god he’s ok best sight at cheltenham today was ruby cantering him back down the course
Agree with the glad he’s okay bit but disagree with the Ruby cantering back part. What the hell was he doing riding him back in after that holy mother of a fall?
That aside he’ll be back next season God willing and take in the same route as always I’d imagine, KG and GC.
Should he have not ridden him back?
Ridden as in cantered him back? Absolutely not in my humble opinion, yes he may have seemed sound and as Ruby said ‘not a bother on him’. That’s all okay to say but can you tell he’s all fine muscularly /internally in a matter of a few minutes, I don’t believe so. And let’s be fair here, would it have hurt to have walked him back in hand or at the very least if ridden then walk him in. I’m not a bleeding heart campaigner here, just saying what I think is common sense.
Where next for Kauto Star?
Haydock, Kempton, Cheltenham…
I reckon Down Royal rather than Haydock thus avoiding IC!

Just read elsewhere that the vet’s tried to save her for over an hour but sadly couldn’t. Also that Fairyland was lost today too. Such a berluddy shame.

all I can say is thank god he’s ok best sight at cheltenham today was ruby cantering him back down the course
Agree with the glad he’s okay bit but disagree with the Ruby cantering back part. What the hell was he doing riding him back in after that holy mother of a fall?
That aside he’ll be back next season God willing and take in the same route as always I’d imagine, KG and GC.
I hope I’m wrong but I think we might see more than the usual number of last flight fallers.
I hope I’m wrong but I tend to agree with this. There will definitely be more this year being driven into the fence than is the norm.
I still love those sorts of shop, even though they are few and far between these days, with all the different nails and screws and washers. I went back to a shop recently that I hadn’t visited for years, to buy one of those plastic things that you put on the top of milk bottles to stop the milk sloshing all over your fridge..I’d bought one from him years and years ago, but I knew he’d still sell them.
If you’re ever up in York for the races make a detour for:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/audiovi … 3073/read/
just the sort of shop you mean I think
Frankie and Johnny reek of paraffin, and have nails, screws, washers, all sorts of "plastic things" and you name it hidden away in small cardboard boxes
A well-deserved award actually as it’s a jewel of a little shop and they know the ‘hardware’ business inside out
Thanks for the obit. Pompete; he was a nice guy
That shop is just brilliant! I would always pop in there for ‘that can’t find it anywhere else’ item and they always had it. Great place to go, even if it is just to browse.

Watch this Saturday, Mar. 13, live for free, RA and Z’s prep races for Apple Blossom.
Don’t know if this requires registration at NTRA site but that’s free too, at least for their free newsletter.
You star JHorse! I was looking today to see if you can watch it online anywhere so many thanks for that.

I only just found out about this today and I couldn’t believe it when I read it, gutted. A real favourite of mine and I’ll really miss seeing him in the future. A sad loss.
I thought it was excellent and a very realistic portrayal of a racing yard. Swearing is part and parcel of the racing industry – actually I thought they were all pretty restrained compared to what you usually hear. Its usually "effing this, effing that" every other word.
I enjoyed the way they showed the different characters of the 3 horses. And I felt for Nolan standing in the unsaddling enlcosure having to face the owners after a disappointing run – believe me it is a very very hard thing to do – the anticipation, the excitement followed by the confusion and disappointment and the owners are waiting for some sort of explanation and quite often you are as baffled as they are. It showed horses aren’t machines.
Nolan, I felt came across very well – hands on and knowledgable with a good sense of humour. Interesting to note the complete absence of women working there though!
Agreed with all the above, so little point in me typing it again.
I loved it and thought it was great viewing, even my OH who is a horse owner/lover who doesn’t really care for racing enjoyed it. He liked the angle they took as in a lot of it was from the horses view so to speak.
As for the swearing…. It is part and parcel of life, whether we like it or not it is there in every walk of it. Does it alter my opinion of Nolan? Not a bit, if I had his job and the massive stress (when I say massive I mean massive!) that go along side it I would be far from an angel myself. He didn’t act in this, he was himself and thank God for that I say. When Cuan Na Grai took that horrendous fall I think most viewers would have sworn out loud to be honest.Just to add, loved the travelling head lad. He was some fella and Nolan is a lucky man to have him, a gentle kind soul if there ever was one .

Parsons Thorns, full brother to Monsieur Le Cure who sustained subsequently fatal injury in the Sun Alliance Chase. Potential Gold Cup horse although I am a little biased because he was finest looking horse I have seen – in fact the last thing he won was best turned out for that Sun Alliance.
That reminds me of another after reading this. Also in that Sun Alliance was the mare Call Me Later from Ireland, I remember thinking she was something else and was well chuffed when she came over for the race. I was absolutely beyond gutted when she died after falling, to a point where it put me off racing for a good while. A hell of a shame…
Apologies if she has already been mentioned on the thread, I did not check!
My 8 year old getting to school for 8 am leaving at 5.00 pm armed with another half hour of the worst invention of all time….homework. When is she supposed to enjoy being a child and play with her toys etc?
There cannot be a sensible argument for it…Grrrr
Agreed, agreed and 100% agreed Crizzy! The amount my 6 year old brings home absolutely beggars belief and by the time he has finished it the day is away. By Friday he is exhausted with it all, it’s so berluddy unfair on them!

What do you think about the new idea to start children at primary school in the September, and not staggered throughout the year as is the case now? We’re not sure sure of the ruling about it, but believe that it isn’t compulsary. Poor babes will be falling asleep. If we had the money, my grandson would go to a Steiner school, where children are allowed to be children for as long as possible.
I’m a Yorkshire lass living in Northern Ireland now and over here they all begin in September as it is. I didn’t actually realise Moe that they didn’t do the same in England? I’m for the staggering of them, definitely. My wee boy started in a September and is up and in amongst kids 9 months older than him and he was just four years of age when he started. (Hindsight is a great thing and I so wished I’d have held him back now. My biggest mistake so far in life ever, stupid, stupid, stupid me) I will never forget being told by his playgroup leader that he was behind a lot of his class mates in his maturity… He was three.

Childhood, what childhood?
P.S Can you tell that subject has hit a nerve?Apart from the race after the 2.55 I have yet to see any racing from Chepstow and won’t until I get a chance to watch it later (recorded).
So apart from the 2.55 how were they finishing in earlier/later races? I ask as I’m not sure Cav and Tbr were specifically saying it was just that said race and was it possibly in the other races too that they meant about the horses finishing badly? Just on reading the race reports alone there was a hell of a lot of PU’s today which to me was no bad thing due to extremes of going.Very sad outcome, especially after giving her the best of attention and chance. Fair play to the owners for that.
Didn’t look good at all for the horse that fell, it was a distance clear and going to win but fell really badly.

That left the favourite in front a distance clear and then that shipped the jockey at the same fence.
The only other which was still running was miles behind but on coming up to the fence was waved round it by what looked like an official because there was obviously a horse laid motionless, a jockey which had just been shipped and a woman who had gone onto the course to go to the horse that wasn’t moving.
The jockey did superbly I thought to firstly see the bloke waving him round the fence and then to steer the horse round it and go onto finish, it could have been carnage had he not gone round it.
The enquiry was because the horse that was the only finisher missed that fence out. I think the decision to let the result stand was common sense and the correct decision.
All the horses in the race apart from the unfortunate one which fell were absolutely out on their feet…
Thanks Zam for that detailed account, appreciated. Terrible news about the outcome of the stricken horse though, she must have been much loved to have had the attentions of the vet for that length of time, some cases are sadly dealt with an awful lot quicker than needs be sometimes. As for Cavelinos remark, I didn’t see the race as mentioned but to be fair it looked appalling ground there today, very close to unraceable and I would have hoped that common sense would prevail in those conditions as to if your horse was floundering then to pull up was then the orders given by the trainers. I take it that was not the case in some instances? Anyhow, whatever the opinions of some this is a forum to discuss them and each and every one here is entitled to express theirs. All round a sad day at Chepstow it seems.
"The Ante-Post King":3c7fateu wrote:
Was it Guy Harwood and Khalid Abdullah? Once quite fancied for the Derby if it’s the one I’m thinking of?
Well done Soba, but who beat him in the 1984 Geoffrey Freer and displaced him as 2nd fav for that years St leger?

That would be the lovely Baynoun who then went on to finish second to Commanche Run in the Leger. Ahhhh the eighties, gotta love those years!

Indeed it was, but who rode him,owned him and trained him then?

Yea God’s you want blood!
Cauthen rode him, FJ Houghton trained and owned by the Aga Khan. Now leave me alone, my brains tired!

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