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Masta Plasta 2.10 york
the nawab 3.10 york
Critic 4.20 york
<br>aTLANTIC waves 1.40 salisbury
Godfrey st 2.15 sals
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Dakota rain 1.10 salisbury
Neideen 3.20 salisbury
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conall , please  allow me to say that you are talking a load of nonsense(will I be ejected ???) like Griff , I used to go year in ;) and year out , but ;) in 2001 , I finally cried enough , I could not get from pre  parade to parade to betting ring , tote was impossible , and I could not ge:biggrin:  to use the toilets when i wanted to .:biggrin: :biggrin:
So I had a word with myself amd left , as for RHT they are just a load of money grabbers , and they will reap what they are sowing now in time , as the present crop of young people who occasionally go racing want more facilities , not less .and thats where it will come unstuck
No offence old chap , its just a rip off , as for unique atmosphere , maybe !!!, but how about the possiblity of the Irish lads saying this is becoming too expensive , what then for Eddie and his chums ???
R
Kevin , fair dues you make your point well and I agree  it cant be all bad when some corporate people come back
but !!!
How about , 70 quid , 40 quid and 25 quid for cheltenham , good old edward and chums have decided the market is right for a 5 quid increase on what is already the most expensive days  racing in the Uk , I ask you this . will you pay it ???
<br>as always we can agree to disagree :biggrin:
Ricky <br>
kevin , nice try !!! , corporate only counts for a few people in relative terms, cources make profits vis the masses , entrance , tote betting , food and drink ,
Football my dear man is football , entertainment yep , (as long as you dont die of boredom )  and your right when fighting for the leisure spend racing must be competitive ,I just dont believe it trys hard enough
R
thing is though , I fervently believe that the policy of overcharging will very soon be voted upon by people staying away , as for comparisons with football , its just not racing is it !!!
Some courses get it right , Southwell for instance Tatts has been about 8 quid for yonks , whereas Lisa and her merry mob just dream about full houses and music nights at 25 quid a go , !!!
There is very little common  sense applied
ps Calder is 2 dollars and free on dark days for simulcasting !!! ÂÂÂ
Ricky :biggrin:
they have  indeed , our racing is a rip off pure and simple !!!, but i think theres going to be a backlash soon , prices are crazy here
enjoy Longchamp , you are very lucky
R
quality post Clive , I agree entirely , am really glad the meaness of Newmarket has been picked up by other forumites , as Im sure all and sundry are sick of me droning on about overcharging and misery guts cources
Carry on Newmarket management, you will empty the rowley mile course eventually , and yes why dont you add another 4 nights to the July Friday night gigs . to hell with racing , thats far too boring and unprofitable
R :o
question  . will John jo  l be training at jackdaws for the next couple of yrs , and will AP still be the stable Jock !!!
<br>I am out of touch with Jumping stuff , but I am wondering how much longer the JP alliance will hold
Ricky <br>
my first job was with APCK bookshop in Dawson st in Dublin in 1967 , I lasted 5 weeks , got sacked for writing the prices of the new smash hit Ulyses in Pen ink !!!!
It was a place where COI bishops used to come in and demand tea, which was really strange,  as in Ireland then being protestant was very much  being part of a very small community , but a very valued one
watch that  Jilly !!! she had me exhausted in the jacuzzi , when we last met in TRF Big Brother , talk about insatiable !!!!
<br>Phew !!!:biggrin:
R
Was this the best topic ever , surely this inane ranting was and is the best of TRF , and arent we the lucky ones to be able to laugh at stuff like this 6 months later
well done to all !!!
RICKY :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
PS Zorro is pretty quiet nowadaya
ok lets spell this out
Value for money in betting is non existent
value for money in procuring goods and or services is tangible and measurable
betting is a matter of choice and chance
Value is an over used in appropriate word ,
so you back a horse at 25 /1 and 5 mins before the race he is 2/1 , have u got value
If you have can you bank it , can you feel it  no
You can however lay off and make a profit regardless of result , but this does not accentuate or validate this value thing
It is a misnomer
R
hi Wallet , its a long time since Mark Cotton wrote about value , it was a good idea  then in theory at least .
Fact is you cannot Eat it !!!!
Winners when u back em
Losers when u lay em
They provide bread , all else is a load of cobblers
<br>R :biggrin:
EC , interersting set of numbers , agree with Kehar and Rakti , the rest we are at a large variance
What is a bit of a imponderable is your usage of a set figure for variant adjustment
This is not the best,  as each race conditions change , wind , additional sunshine , and or continour rain , so you need to treat each race seperately, and measure points per furlong accordingly
I guaranttee this will reap better rewards
R :cheesy:
I agree , it was appaling!,if ever you needed  a reason to give this show a miss todays offering was ample !!!
Pathetic ,
Wonder what Barry would do if Betfair just told him to take his hedging business elsewhere , ????
<br>Paul Haig was brilliant today , he tells the truth , those mean bookies will be redundant soon , and they know it , all  they will have is fobt and cartoon punters , Horse players will have migrated to exchanges
<br>R :o
Gus , you are right , court cases would be many
Great idea though
there is no chance in real life to all parties signing up to it , and to make it compulsury would be challenged in the courts , and inded would undermine the jockey club even further <br>Lets give Pro stewards a go , and I dont mean hiring some more ex policemen !!!
Ricky
