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I don’t think there is any need to overreact, he fell, but he’s fell before and comeback again. His King George run suggests he’s at least as good as ever and I fully expect him to at least win that next season and who knows about a third Gold Cup. But he deserves his summer rest and lets see how he is next season.
March 15, 2010 at 11:09 in reply to: TUESDAYS SELECTIONS [TRF CHELTENHAM TIPPING COMPETITION] #28244013.30- General Miller e.w.
14.05- Mad Max e.w.
14.40- Chief Dan George e.w.
15.20- KHYBER KIM (NAP)
16.00- Another Jewel e.w.
16.40- Sway e.w.Last season’s top novices seem to have done very well this term, especially against last year’s CL contenders. But as much as I respect Go Native and Medermit and while I think Starluck will be better suited to this course than the new, I still can’t get the image of Khyber Kim’s 2 easy wins out of my mind. I think he goes best fresh and can’t see him out of the first 3.
They just need to go back to the rules of a few years ago where there were greater bans for whip offences in big races. I’m all for jockeys trying to win, but not at all costs. Choc Thornton for example was overly hard on both Katchit and Captain Cee Bee 2 years ago. Maybe bigger fines are needed too, maybe even as harsh as 75% of their prize money percentage.
He was on Talksport the other day and said he will do most Morning Lines and most of the midweek festival meetings but will no longer be on a Saturday afternoon. I guess this is part of the phasing him out process that started last year when his appearances were halved.
I noticed Simon Holt is doing less Saturdays too, I don’t know if that is just giving him a break until Cheltenham, but he was commentating at Kelso the other day when Channel 4 were at Kempton. Also there is a lot less Thommo (which can’t be a bad thing) nowadays too.Surely the race on Sunday was a race he’d won the previous 2 years so it’s clearly a course and distance that suits. As has been said, he has run a couple of decent races this year, so he is not completely shot yet. Maybe a lonmger break in between races is whats needed, who knows, but in a season where Our Vic, Monet’s Garden and War of Attrition have all won, it’s hard to say horses should be retired off at 10 or 11.
Kilcrea Castle has no key race form. Hard to see him being classy enough.
Well today will tell us and Rough Quest won this before his National I beleive
I think on this ground and with the headgear switch, Madison has to have more than a big chance. He gets the trip and then some, can just sit off the pace and pounce late on.
Coral Cup entry. Henderson and JP have had ample opportunity to warn punters so why nothing? I suppose on past history you expect nothing better from JP who is basically only interested in one punter but surely Henderson could have done better?
Warn punters about what? Surely its one of several entries it will hold before now and the end of the season? I’m guessing they will see what the weights are and decide from there. In my view, the winner of that last race was underestimated due to the fact that 3 "bigger" yards had entries. But its form was rock solid and he was obviously well thought of to have been made favourite on debut.
slightly off the point, but why do some trainers, e.g Dermot Wels and Noel Meade, use sheepskin nose-bands all the time?
Ian Balding used to say it gave him an advantage in a photo finish, although I’m not sure if this was a joke or not.
I totally agree with the other comments. You just have to take the losses on the chin and view the next bet as a seperate entity.
I know I keep on about him but the more I look at him the happier I am with Kilcrea Castle. Connections have got to have a go off this mark.
He’s got Orchestra in him (sired Miss Orchestra to win the Midlands National and Relaxation to win the NH Chase), and Monksfield (damsire of Monty’s Pass) and Gala Performance (West Tip and Greasepaint).
I think he’s related to old Harbour Pilot (willing to stand corrected) and watching a rerun of that race behind Casey Jones he certainly wasn’t stopping and had some confirmed stayers behind him that day. Couple that with how well he jumps and I am actually quite confident.
I’m not so hot on breeding and bloodlines, but i was very taken with his debut run for Venetia and was willing to back him to beat Madison on Saturday (although I never get Venetia’s right these days). The only slight worry is the level of some of the Irish chase form, apart from the very best ones, there seems to be some average horses running well in graded races.
Kilcrea Castle is with Emma Lavelle not Venitia Williams
. Agree his family is packed full of stamina. Sire Windsor Castle won the Northumberland Plate as a 3 year old. Hugh Taylor’s gone for him ante-post for the National. Does look lightly weighted on that form with Casey Jones. Also second to Schindler’s Hunt last year.
Am now on Niche Market 33/1, Hello Bud 40/1, Mon Mome 25/1 and Kilcrea castle 50/1.
Also, winner to carry more than 11 stones @ 7/4 and winner to carry 11 stones or more 11/8 (slight difference).Yes I realised yesterday that I got my female trainers mixed up. I couldn’t really argue with any of your selections either.
Perhaps the pertemps final could be back on the agenda, as the handicappers has dropped Bouggler by 2lbs to 148.
I find this a baffling decision – a close up third in a competitive Grade 2 race and his mark is cut?
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I expected it, the winner was rated 10lbs lower, the second 2 and the fourth 4.
Trainer’s stated Bouggler will miss Cheltenham and run at Aintree.I was just going to say something along those lines. While there were horses in the race with graded novice form, it was a rather weak grade 2 race.
Chombawomba did me a few favours the last couple of years and of course United for Lucy Wadham.
I was on Bouggler but because he lost 2nd, there was no way the result of the race was ever going to change. Whether people like the rules or not, there is no way you can say the result was definitely affected by what happened and why should Kayf Aramis be given a race when at best he was a lucky 2nd anyway.
One of my favourite horses of a few years back, Seven Towers used to run with his nose almost touching the turf and was the first I noticed running like that. I guess a low head carriage is better than a very high one.
Start at the top of the ratings. Other than possibly notre pere do you really see any other horse running before you reach mon mome? I doubt it myself.
Well Pipe said yesterday that Madison will run in the Racing Post and the National with Cheltenham a big doubt, so that’s 2 of the top weights suggesting they will take their chance. At this point in time, it’s shaping up like last year’s race, so the "11st rule" seems less likely to apply again as it will be a fairly compacted handicap again.
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