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  • in reply to: John Hunt #1701465
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    There are no words that adequately describe the pure evil of this act or the deep shock and sadness it has caused.

    My sincerest condolences to John, his surviving daughter, and their family and friends.

    RIP Carol, Hannah and Louise

    in reply to: Deodoro #1700516
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    I think there are two issues here. The first one, which in theory should be easier to solve, is that all former racehorses deserve a good death. What I mean by this is that they should be treated well up until the point of death, and that the death itself occurs in a humane manner. Even where a horse’s life is ending in a way that we may view as unpalatable such as going to an abbatoir, this should still be possible.

    The much harder issue is finding good homes for former racehorses so that as many as possible can live out long and happy lives. Clearly there remain massive problems here, and I suspect an attempt to track down all the horses who were in training in Britain and Ireland a decade ago would reveal very dispiriting results.

    For example, in a follow-up to the RTE programme, they mentioned a point-to-point meeting where five horses who had competed were soon after traced to the nearby slaughterhouse. I wonder how common this is.

    There are lots of good people doing heroic work with ex-racehorses, but the industry is still doing far too much blind eye turning. I appreciate that racehorses with future potential are much more exciting to their owners than last year’s cast-offs, but we have a responsibility to all the horses involved in our sport.

    in reply to: Betting revenue down #1700388
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    Richard, I was hoping there might already be some comparative research out there that one of the well-informed posters on here was aware of. You would think it would be of interest to quite a few parties.

    A quick search did not provide anything of note, though admittedly I didn’t spend long on it.

    in reply to: Betting revenue down #1700360
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    While the fall in betting on racing is concerning, is there comparative data for betting on other sports over the same period? That would help with understanding if the underlying cause is a decline in popularity of racing, or if other factors such as affordability checks and cost of living are driving the decline.

    in reply to: Horses – Making a Killing #1700356
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    Now watched the RTE programme. They are to be commended for the considerable research and effort that was involved in making it. The horse transport and passport fraud aspects that it focused on are clearly a significant problem. Where money is involved, people will always try to do unscrupulous things, but the authorities seem to have been turning a blind eye and making it easy for criminal activity to occur. Although the problem is not confined to ex-racehorses, they are clearly a major element, and it does not reflect at all well on the racing industry.

    Much like the BBC Panorama programme from 2021, the presentation seemed factual and measured, and not sensational in the slightest. Sadly I think there will be more programmes of this nature to come, but quite frankly the more media scrutiny the better until things improve.

    in reply to: Horses – Making a Killing #1697671
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    in reply to: Horses – Making a Killing #1697670
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    Thanks for highlighting this zilzal.

    Sounds like more dispiriting viewing ahead, with racing being heavily implicated https://about.rte.ie/2024/06/12/footage-of-cruelty-and-abuse-of-horses-in-kildare-revealed-by-rte-investigates/

    in reply to: Julie Harrington to step down as BHA chief #1697655
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    I wonder if Julie Harrington actually had any genuine interest in racing.

    What’s Paula Vennells doing now? Expect an announcement from the BHA any day…

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    BigG’s post about the milkshake throwing is spot on in my view. I’m surprised at the number of people thinking it is OK to throw a liquid over a politician, even if it’s a thoroughly contemptible one such as Farage.

    At the time of the act, the victim is not to know what the substance is, and I can see why the experience could be intimidating and traumatising. The fact the liquid turns out to be something innocuous is irrelevant as that is not known at the time. The linkage to far worse acts such as what happened to Jo Cox is entirely valid.

    For those people who dismiss it is as a prank, if someone chucked a milkshake over them as they were simply going about their day, would they not consider themselves to have been assaulted?

    in reply to: True Or False Quiz (winner goes next) #1697372
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    Have finally had a chance to look at your bumper set of questions Ginger, great stuff.

    What a shame about the little owl. On a happier note, carpet fitting has led you to plenty of interesting experiences by the sound of things. Did you ever make the switch to betting full time?

    I really enjoyed the whole of this thread. Thank you to everyone who contributed to it 🙂

    in reply to: Retirements #1694991
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    Corach ran his best race only two months ago. I am not sure why the fact he may possibly not be able to repeat it is sufficient justification to retire him. Very few horses can win every race they take part in.

    Thank goodness the connections of countless other star Jumps horses such as Red Rum, Desert Orchid and Kauto Star did not give up when their horses reached age 10. All of these horses had periods without success before achieving some of their most memorable victories at older ages.

    I think star horses act best as ambassadors for racing when they are actually racing. If we are so afraid of something bad befalling them and the negative PR consequences, I would again question if we should ever be racing any horses at all. I also find it puzzling that some racing fans who seem keen to call for star horses to be retired quickly will then lament making the National fences easier.

    As I say, I’m not making these comments to criticise Corach’s connections or anyone who has praised the decision. I just think the trend of retiring star Jumps horses earlier and earlier, and campaigning them so timidly, is not good for the future of the sport.

    in reply to: Retirements #1694960
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    I am of course delighted that Corach Rambler retires in good health, and that he will have a home for life where he will rightly be adored.

    But I also can’t help but feel sad that he has been retired at only 10 years old and after so few races. The longevity of careers that horses had when I first became interested in racing, and which attracted me to the sport, is rapidly becoming a thing of the past.

    Nowadays it seems that as soon as a good horse has one or two bad races, people want it to be retired and everyone is relieved when it happens. And then on the other hand there will be people lamenting small field sizes next winter.

    This is not to criticise anyone who has praised the decision to retire Corach Rambler as I know people simply want the best for him and his connections. But I do have to wonder what the future holds for the sport when even racing fans seem to be so keen for star horses to cease to be raced.

    in reply to: One for the anoraks… #1694958
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    “If the general trend is towards breeding for speed, why are staying races for 2yo coming earlier in the season?”

    I suspect the tendency to favour speed has corresponded with a tendency to favour precocity.

    Even if the rate of equine development hasn’t changed, people tend to be less patient nowadays, so perhaps there has also been pressure from connections of horses whose pedigrees suggest they will be suited by further.

    in reply to: Brilliant #1694274
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    BlackGold, the weekly HRI Registrations update dated 2 May lists a horse named Brilliant as deceased – see page 4 of the link:

    https://www.hri-ras.ie/getmedia/321f5182-df00-4d1f-bade-648ca4d709f0/240502-2nd-May-Calendar-Supplement.pdf

    in reply to: Worst Names – nominations #1694256
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    I always felt that Al Boum Photo didn’t have a name befitting of a dual Gold Cup winner.

    in reply to: Nickelsonthedime #1694215
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    Thanks for the links to the stats CAS. I wonder if there is further more granular analysis that doesn’t appear in the published reports e.g. the impact of ground as has been mentioned.

    The funny thing about the statistics is that it doesn’t feel to me as if fatalities are falling. Perhaps those caused by falls are, but catastrophic leg injuries seem to be on the rise.

    This may just be all about visibility though. Even though the racing authorities and media do a poor job at updating the public on the wellbeing of horses who have suffered bad falls and injuries, there is still a lot more information out there now due to the internet.

    I agree it’s wise not to make rash or emotive decisions based on a short period of time. It’s also important to remember that one of the most high-profile recent deaths, Shishkin, was nothing at all to do with racing.

    I don’t want to be unoptimistic about the future of the sport, but it is going to need to continue to be heavily proactive on the welfare topic in order to survive. There have been some promising signs in the past few years, though there is still much more that can be done.

    in reply to: Eurovision 2024 #1694212
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    I know you aren’t saying the winner was undeserving CAS, and agree that some juries were likely biased against the Israeli entry.

    My point is that I don’t think the Israeli jury results were necessarily due to coordinated vote manipulation, or part of some wider plan to target victory for another country. I appreciate you haven’t said that explicitly either, but your comment about juries possibly being “leaned on” hints at it.

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