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I’d happily see an end to water jumps, but Third Time Lucki’s injury looked like something that could happen at any fence. He appeared to clear the obstacle cleanly and then break down on landing. It didn’t look like one of those horrible incidents where the horse catches the lip of the water.
Not sure……..I think for water jumps that are not in front of the stands they are irrelevant and should be turned into a standard fence but will they just see this as a horse making a jumping mistake rather than it being because of a water jump
If they ban water jumps then what about other horses that make the same type of mistake at other fences and sustain an injury, do we ban those fences as well?
RIP Thistle Ask – condolences to all but especially the groom.
If they ban water jumps then what about other horses that make the same type of mistake at other fences and sustain an injury, do we ban those fences as well?
You can land in the water an sustain the injury, that’s my entire point. You don’t have that when jumping a regular fence.
Isn’t actually any water at that Sandown fence is there?
The more I know the less I understand.
If they land in, on or drag their hind legs through a fence and lose their backend they can injury themselves just as easily as we sadly saw at Aintree but with that being said if water jumps were banned I wouldn’t complain about it.
As I said I do think if you are going to continue having water jumps they should only be in front of the stands where the crowd can actually see the spectacle of a horse jumping it but there are not a lot of jumps course that do actually have them in that position……so I don’t see the point having a water jump anywhere else.
I fear that the BHA would very much view them as simply being another part of the jumping test that a horse faces in a chase race…….it might sadly take a very high profile horse to lose its life in order to see a ban coming in.
I haven’t seen the incident involving Thistle Ask but I am very sorry to hear about it.
I reiterate my opinion that water jumps have got to go. They are not used in Ireland and there is no need to retain these anachronisms here either.
I’ve long advocated to get rid of water jumps that have a lip on which a horse can catch its legs with catastrophic results. However, as RTB says, it did not look from the TV pictures as if Sandown’s water jump has either a lip or indeed any water nowadays.
Perhaps someone who has been to the course recently can advise, but it looks like it is just a patch of differently coloured level ground.
It looked like Thistle Ask jumped it fine but on the landing side he appeared to get his hind legs awkwardly under him to clear the “water” and not get his legs into it. He didn’t hit no lip or edge.
The more I know the less I understand.
No, according to the vets he broke a shoulder. If you watch the footage from above you’ll see that he took off way too early and landed with his front legs in the “water”. This is what makes the water jump so tricky….
There is far too much of ban this, ban that! The RSPCA are always moaning about something. Ban greyhounds and they would’t be bred. No matter how safe things are made, accidents, rare as they are, will always happen. We had one special race where a moderate horse could become a hero – the Grand National run only once a year. But thanks to the RSPCA and other moaners the distance of the race was shortened
and the fences were made easier. Now it is an just an ordinary steeplechase. But we still have accidents. So let’s ban steeplechases and then let’s ban horse racing altogether.The RSPCA does not seem to understand that horse racing is NOT cruelty. Horses love to race and if they don’t want to they would not do it. When not racing they live in what we would call a 5☆ hotel. It is an absolute fact only happy horses win races.
As for water jumps they are just part of the course. If you watch racing you will see horses who have fallen earlier will jump the water jump without their jockey. Because they enjoy it!
As for water jumps they are just part of the course. If you watch racing you will see horses who have fallen earlier will jump the water jump without their jockey. Because they enjoy it!
Horses would jump anything in their way as long as they don’t know what’s behind the obstacle. If there would be stones behind it, they would still jump it.
The fact that the water jump is much more dangerous than the normal fences is easy to understand. Ar Sandown the water in one of ten jumps, but statistically it causes more than the expected 10% in injuries.
The RSPCA does not seem to understand that horse racing is NOT cruelty.
In which other sports are you allowed to hit the main participant almost as much as you like and still keep the race?
I thought it was now called the old water jump before the railway fence, I thought it doesn’t have water in it anymore
Thistle Ask update
BHA veterinary officer Amy Hawthorn has just appeared on Racing TV to discuss the fatal injury suffered by Thistle Ask in the Celebration Chase.“It was a horrid incident,” she said. “He came into the water jump and took off on what looked to be quite an awkward stride and then suffered a fracture in his left leg.
“There were three vets with him straight away who were able to sedate him so he wasn’t in any pain. They quickly reached the decision, which is in the best interests of the horse, to euthanise. On first look it seems like this was an unfortunate accident relating to the take off.”
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