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UM, <br>Agree with you.<br>The problem is the Lingfield AW track which consistently brings hard luck stories.<br>Factors:<br>1.Short run in to the first bend in 10 f races<br>2. Low draw usually plays a significant advantage<br>3. Short run in off the final bend causes bunching<br>4. Far easier to come from off the pace on the new polytrack surface so potential front runners think they are setting it up for any finisher able to get a run.<br>Yesterday’s Group 3 was a farce, won admittedly from an outside draw off a funereal pace with lots of bunching and interference e.g. Nayir didn’t get a run and Fortune got a few days ban.<br>The new Kempton track is reportedly less tight and much fairer.
Quote: from Fallonman on 12:01 pm on Mar. 19, 2006[br]There is no doubt that Martin Pipe is and has been at the top of the NH tree for some time.<br>In my youth Peter Walwyn was the toast of the flat. Pat Eddery was his stable jockey and everything he ran whether 2 year olds, 3 year olds or the trainers hack seemed to win. Then one day he had got the virus and it all stopped and he was never the same trainer again.<br>I just wonder if we are seeing something similar with MP and this is the beginning of the end of Martin Pipe’s dominance of the NH scene.
Cetainly Walwyn and Eddery were a highly successful partnership in the mid 70s, the former being champion trainer and latter winning 4 jockeys titles when with Walwyn.<br>Walwyn showed tremendous loyalty to Eddery in appointing him stable jockey at 20 and standing by him in the face of criticism from the Wildensteins which led them to transfer their horses to Cecil. This is most unusual in racing – compare and contrast with Ian Balding and John Matthias.<br>Agree with you that viruses badly diminished the stable.It also had a highly respected head lad in Ray Laing and when he left to set up as a trainer in his own right it further damaged Walwyn.
BoS was my lay of the meeting.<br>We learnt nothing new. His performance confirmed what we know from previous GC efforts- that he can mop up small field events on yielding going in Eire but is not a force when he doesn’t get his ideal conditions.<br>Clearly from trainer’s post race remarks we will not be seeing him on this side of the Irish Sea ever again.
Iris’s Gift. I expected him to be on the floor and thankfully that didn’t happen. He was in the wrong race. Connections must be back to the drawing board.
War of Attrition- full marks to the winner. At least he demonstrated quality and further possibilities to improve in amongst a field of h’cappers and plodders
Fallonman, <br>Think that your last paragraph probably sums things up. It would appear that David Johnson is a Murphy fan but Pipe and many of his other owners prefer more aggressive and forceful rides from other jockeys. Owners pay the bills so are always right and if these people prefer McCoy or Johnson so be it. Not sure why anyone would want to put up Malone, Greene, Glastonbury or Scudamore ahead of Murphy though.<br>As I’ve said previously, should the partnership end in tears I have no doubt that Murphy would find suitable employment elsewhere.<br>Clivex, <br>The pipe yard fired as usual in November for that Cheltenham meeting but as basically been relatively in the doldrums since.Pipe is currently on the "cold" trainers list in the RP. <br>Some interesting questions:-<br>1. Will this season hasten the handover to Pipe junior and what fist will he make of it?<br>2. What does David Johnson make of it? Although he has a couple of horses with Brendan Powell who he presumably sees as an up and comer plus primarily Pipe cast offs with Montieth in the north, his best horses are all with Pipe. Does he want to continue to give centralised support to the yard? Losing Well Chief for the season was a big blow, but many of the Johnson performers seem in decline (Stormez, Control Man, Medison,Marcel) , inconsistent (Our Vic) or not championship class (Don’t Be Shy, Celestial Gold). Other than at the November meeting, the yard don’t seem able to lay one out for a big h’cap hurdle this season (I know the non Johnson owned one won at Sandown). More to the point there seems little new talent on the way up in the yard- no runner in the Triumph and few novice hurdlers of note.<br>3. Are the horses ill or just slow or on the wane?
Not sure that this is statistically higher than previous years- perhaps someone can enlighten us.<br>Big fields, good ground, breakneck pace at the big meeting= inevitable equine deaths.<br>Part of the price for the entertainment of the NH festival.<br>Acceptable or not?
Quote: from Fallonman on 10:08 pm on Mar. 16, 2006[br]When this is all over what price Murphy being the first casualty ?<br>
No justification for that at all.<br>Murphy has ridden with great success for David Johnson when the horses have been going.Name a race when Murphy has let connections down.<br>There were reportedly teething problems with Pipe who wanted the horses more aggressively ridden but then there appear to be many who hanker for the halycon days of "AP" whipping Pipey’s selling platers off the front (visit the Martin Pipe website and you’ll see what I mean). <br>In a worse case scenario, I’m sure Murphy’s patient style would find a home with Hen Knight and others.
Quote: from Irish Stamp on 5:06 pm on Mar. 16, 2006[br]If you take a look at his site Reet Hard his method of recruiting horses seems to be to claim 4 or 5 in the claiming hurdles in France, bring them over and then sell them on.<br>
<br>True to an extent, many of his lesser lights are bought off the peg this way.<br>However the Johnson owned better horses tend to be expensive purchases from Ireland.
re. Persad I am not a fan.<br>One thing being "knowledgeable" and a "nice guy" but if he cannot convey anything much useful when on air then what is the point of him being a broadcast journalist?<br>
(Edited by Lingfield at 10:37 pm on Mar. 8, 2006)
It gets worse!<br>The BHB masterminds have a plan to assimilate banded racing into mainstream cards.Why do they need to pad out the everburgeoning surfeit of fixtures with this low grade dross no-one wants to watch other than to save a few bob on prize money?<br>With more and more sand racing, it’s like going to the dogs in more ways than one. <br>
Quote: from jackane24 on 9:40 pm on Feb. 5, 2006[br]Was also very lucky to get that second – Mister McGoldrick had to swerve to avoid Robert Thornton which buggered up the momentum and could easily have got 2nd. <br>
Changing the vein of the thread, wasn’t that race a dismal contest? Indicative of the poor standard of British hurdlers. The German horse would have won but for missing the last.Yes he was tiring but the others were hardly flying. Perhaps the German hurdlers are better than ours! 66/1 Royal shakespeare for Champ Hurdle says it all.
Must admit I have a sneaking regard for the good doctor who targets races which have cut up for his slowboats and sometimes collects place money down to 6th etc.<br>Generally he keeps out of the way, either because his mount is too slow to keep up anyway or out of good sense , though he did feature in a X country chase at Chelt this year when his horse tried to run out (or else he nearly took the wrong course!) when up front.
Even in a dismally weak renewal I predict that there is only one place that IG will end up – on the floor.<br>His jumping will not hold up against experienced chasers and there will be pace on in the GC
Agree with Murtagh. People are getting heavier and why should their health be endangered though tough on specialist lightweights. Irish research indicated that most jocks are in charge of a thoroughbred in races whilst badly dehydrated. What about maiden auction races? weight depends on price paid and some of the lower weights are ridiculously light.What is the weight range in these races?
Quote: from Seven Towers on 8:12 pm on Jan. 31, 2006[br]Looking at the jockey profiles reminded me of Jo Badger, what happened to her? Judging from her picture on the site it looks like she’s been through the washing machine, poor thing.<br>
<br>The think I read somewhere that she was riding in the USA
I’ve no time for the "operators" of the game.<br>Trying to second guess them is a waste of time and money. The betting market is also distorted when they have a runner.<br>To my mind the gap between their "priveliged inside information" and what is in the public domain is unacceptably large and highlights the inadequacies of the sport’s regulators.<br>Yes, they take the mick out of the bookies but also show disdain for punters in general.<br>All adds to the tawdry image of racing with the uninitiated general public.
Quote: from davidjohnson on 5:03 pm on Dec. 20, 2005[br]Yes becuase we all remember Muhammad Ali for losing to Holmes and Berbick don’t we.
<br>Actually some of us boxing fans do.<br>Sad to see a legend being beaten up by Holmes ,who used to be his sparring partner, although was a good fighter in his own right.Probably didn’t do a lot for Ali’s Parkinson’s either
Quote: from Alchemist on 3:32 pm on Dec. 20, 2005[br]I agree Steve, its about enjoyment.
I probably wont be as good at golf when i’m 65, thats not necessarily a reason to stop playing is it?<br>
<br>No problem at all with old men enjoying a recreational activity.<br>However I personally prefer to see champion professional performers go out on top rather than be remembered as "has beens" who carried on too long and struggled to maintain a semblance of their former level of performance.<br>In football Denis Law went out on top after his back heeled goal relegated his former club Man Utd. whereas Jimmy Greaves ended up with Barnet.<br>In boxing remember Ali being beaten up by Larry Holmes who was pleading with the ref to stop the contest? Evander Holyfield should also retire.<br>As for golf, Ballesteros still deludes himself that he is a contender!<br>Untimely as their deaths were, at least we will remember RB and Best Mate at or near the top of the tree
(Edited by Lingfield at 4:11 pm on Dec. 20, 2005)
