Forum Replies Created
- Posts
Must be 15/20 years ago I guess but on my vague recollection one of the few horses I ever remember falling at 30th fence.
Might even have been Norman Williamson who was on board….
The day you own a horse and are told by your trainer to keep your friggin nose out of it then you are with the right trainer.
A trainer takes many things into consideration when placing a horse.
To be honest any first time owner who thinks he can buy a horse then start telling the trainer where to run him will very likely be asked if they wanted to train it themself in a friendly way……which is much the same as keep your friggin nose out of it
I disagree Aristo. I am not an owner and perhaps I dont know enough to pass comment but if a trainer dictated to me I’d move my horse. Surely the relationship of owner/trainer should be about compromise. Using the owners enthusiasm and interest together with the trainers eperience and know how. I’d leave "the training" of the beast to the trainer but see no reason why I couldn’t consult and agree with the trainer on which race to go for. And in todays climate, when attracting new owners is not easy, trainers need to become more people friendly.
I agree with Aristo and having owned horses myself I’m quite happy to leave it to the trainer. You don’t pay someone for a service and then tell them how to do their job. Daft example but you wouldn’t go to a doctor and tell them how to treat you now would you??
It would be a useful piece of info, don’t they do this with greyhounds?
However, if you go to the races and study the horses in the paddock it’s easy enough to tell – one of the pitfalls of not being there.
Having said that a few years ago I was at York races and a trainer was trying to sell a few of us a share in a horse. It was entered to run the following week but we were told not to back it as it was only 50% fit.
Not had any big wins (more interested in being able to back the winner as it’s so difficult) but my winners since I started in 1977 are’
Corbiere
West Tip
Mr Frisk
Minnehoma
Earth Summit
Bindaree
NumbersixvalverdeThe one I remember most was Bindaree as I saw him win a novice hurdle at Carlisle when he was 5 and walking back to the winners enclosure told my brother that I thought he could win a National – wonder what price I would have got that day?
I think that Paul Nicholls is missing the point on this one.
The whole beauty of racing is that everyone is entitled to compete, big or small at the same level. Given the distance and demands of the Gold Cup any inferior horses will not be at the head of affairs, or not for long.
I agree with the principle of having a mimimum rating for the really top races but in reality, how many of these horses would actually end up running anyway?
There is also the point that if you want to avoid a horse in a race the jockey shouldn’t have too much trouble in doing so, but that’s beside the point.
If Cerium runs he will be there to run on his merits but his owners will be looking for him to come back in one piece and ideally pick up 5th or 6th place prize money.
Hi,
Going back to my hometown of York for Xmas – won’t get to Wetherby (because it’s chaos) but might try to sneek to Catterick on 28th, ah the prospects of a poor selling hurdle……….
