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  • in reply to: Howard Johnson… #335422
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    Musselburgh on duty vets from the Bush will take the damaged limb from horses dead from fatal injuries on the track for research. I dunno how often they do it, but it does occur. I guess that’s possibly what happened there…….

    in reply to: Monet’s Garden – One Last Battle #334787
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    Please god he defies his odds once again – wonderful horse.

    in reply to: Corran Ard- A Heartwarming Tale #306313
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    Unfortunately knowledge is not proof hence it is impossible to do that.

    in reply to: Corran Ard- A Heartwarming Tale #306297
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    I believe Evan Williams had wanted to retire the horse as he felt his injuries would not tolerate more racing. :?

    Corrie is not an isolated incident, sadly. More horses from that area were in the same farm.
    He would be one of the 2000 plus (2404 in 2006, but the current data is hard to find) that disappear annually after their careers are over.Neither the BHA or Wetherbys can account for these horses. That is roughly 33% of the horses that come out of racing every year. :shock:

    I am a huge fan of racing, and IMO British and Irish racing is the best in the world. However, the industry needs to address the welfare problems created by overproduction of horses and the increase in race meetings to meet that.

    Grayson, the horse is now relaxed and settled in his mind again. He’ll take a while to recover from the ravages of his journey though. Can you believe he still had racing plates on when we went to pick him up? The yard hadn’t even done him the courtesy of removing them.

    In racing, there are various bodies set up to protect specific sections of the industry. They all shout loudly about how racing would not survive without them. There’s only one participant in horseracing that is truly indispensible, and that is the horse.
    Who protects him?

    in reply to: Corran Ard- A Heartwarming Tale #304147
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    This is a more accurate version of events than the BBC site.

    http://equinerescuefrance.wordpress.com … eat-yards/

    I am part of EquineRescueFrance – we have seen more of these ex UK TBs in the French meat yards, and are trying very hard to get the authorites to act to prevent this happening.

    in reply to: RUK and Virgin media #245857
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    I’d paid a year’s subscription in April, and discovered on Saturday that it was no longer valid, despite being led to believe that it would be honoured for the year………………

    I am seething and angry. I don’t bet much at all, I just watch racing because I love it and used to be involved in it. So there’s no way I can justify paying £24.99 a month. What a rip off for one channel.

    I have tried to phone the number, and it won’t connect at all, probably because I’m in France?

    in reply to: The Mike Tyson of horse racing? #242705
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    Thank you Darren, it was in fact Arcadian Heights that tried to eat Machiavellian……. my memory is even worse than I thought…… :oops: :lol:

    in reply to: The Mike Tyson of horse racing? #242694
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    And wasn’t it Luchiroverte who tried to take a chunk out of Machievallian? :lol:

    (can’t remember where or when….. :oops: )

    in reply to: Vincent O’Brien has died #231857
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    He was a peerless genius and changed racing forever.

    How fortunate that Sadlers Wells was under his care, and the guidance of his legacy of Coolmore.
    The magic will live on in the capable hands of his namesake Aiden O’Brien, and what testament to his vision and skills that ten of the thirteen remaining entries in this years Derby are immediate or second generation descendants of the great horse.

    The fairytale would be Black Bear Island, a product of the stallions of Dr O’Brien’s generation, taking the crown.

    A truly great, great man.

    We are the poorer for his loss.

    in reply to: O’Malley #223727
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    To all those opposed to water jumps ask yourselves this :
    Why are the RSPCA in favour of them lip or no lip as opposed to other types of fence?
    Do we get posts calling for open ditches to be removed when a horse loses it’s life at one similar to the rare occasion when one does at a water jump?
    Really on the evidence people should be campaigning for water jumps to be re-instated at the tracks which have removed them.
    But that support of the RSPCA is key to me, not sure some posters know better than them.

    The RSPCA don’t know their **** from their elbow, IMO. If they are in favour, which I will take your word for, they are going on stats, not what happens. They have not considered the manner of how horses jump.

    I don’t know the statisitics for fatalities at open ditches. Are there any? It would be interesting to see.

    That aside, horse suffer fatal injuries at water jumps for leaving one or both back legs. If a horse did that at a conventional fence or an open ditch, it may halt his momentum, he may bank it, and if leaving both legs badly may unseat the jockey, but it is rarely fatal.

    The water jump fence height is lower, therefor the arc of the jump is smaller, and the horse is more likely to land short enough to catch a leg in the water. Many of the water jump injuries are when a horse has jumped the adequate height for the brush section, realised in the air that he has to stretch in front to avoid landing in the water, throw his forelimbs forward and then pulls his back legs through together to try and clear the water behind, and that is when they clip the lip.
    The horses don’t see the water until they have already formed their jump, and react accordingly in the air, whereas with an open ditch they see it as they approach the fence before they leave the ground.

    in reply to: O’Malley #223691
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    I agree they should be done away with.
    I believe a study was done in which the fatalities at water jumps were statisitcally no greater than at other fences. However, the type of injury sustained is to my mind worse.
    The horses often don’t make a large enough error to ‘fall’ as such, but the nature of the fence allows them to drop their back legs in and catch on the lip which does the damage. I’ve watched too many pull up after with a pelvic/back injury.
    Either have the water wide enough that they

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    to land in it, as they do in some French racing or eventing, or get rid of them entirely.
    I’d favour the latter.

    in reply to: Endless Power #212346
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    Aw no……… what a terrible shame for the horse and the stable.

    RIP, lovely boy.

    in reply to: McCoy… #209481
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    Some man.

    I haven’t always been enamoured of how hard he used to be on horses, but his ability is unquestionable, his toughness legendary.

    A fantastic achievement.

    Respect, AP.

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    Sad to read this, but he had a great innings.
    He carried my dosh the year he won at Aintree, just unfortunately without a jockey!

    Sleep well, old boy.

    in reply to: Asking you guys because I have no ideas of my own…. #208242
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    Good luck!!! :D

    in reply to: pressgang #207429
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    Desperate. Sleep well.

    in reply to: Racing abandoned through heat #207120
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    We have plenty of the stuff up here, and store it in the gaps between the mountains!

    lmao…….I do remember those water butts!!

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