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And as for "finding opinions like that in the Looney bin" I do believe it was YOU, Joncol, who suggested that the parade ring should be turned into a crime scene and, I assume, the police should be called!
Would you like to run that 999 call through your head?
To be honest I think I’m getting under your skin so more than likely to stay if it annoys you that much.
I wouldn’t get opinions like your anywhere else bar a looney bin
Opinion? I’m dealing with facts!
As for your first quote of "take a leaf out of Henderson’s book and withdraw your runners" are you aware that Nicky Henderson trained Oasis Knight, who came 2nd?
So just to confirm, you are going to continue watching this "cruel sport" once you’ve got over the fact that Newbury ran the 1st race?
Why would they even think of running the horses when 20% of the field were killed in the parade ring 30 mins earlier for an unknown cause.
There is the facility on this site where you can look at posts at the start of the conversation, you will see I was calling for racing to be cancelled straight away, not sure if you consider this hindsight? .
Rather than looking at the most recent comment you can look at the first few posts, pm me if your not sure how it works.
I’ve read the whole thread & it’s all about you banging on about "never watching racing again" and "they shouldn’t have run the 1st race"
As I’ve stated, the trainer of The Merry Man reports that he came back a bit stressed & wished he never ran him. The other horses came back FINE! There are unconfirmed reports of burn marks on the inside of their mouths. Which, if true, don’t seem to have upset any of the horses in any way.
Now, can you confirm whether you are leaving racing and this forum or are you going to continue watching and posting, once you have got over your little hissy fit?
"I’m not sure how you expect anyone to spot burn marks on the inside of a horses mouth while they are wearing a bridle but I’m sure you would have done." Mmmm let me think about this one, perhaps by removing it in the half hour they were waiting around prior to the race going ahead, just an idea.
So you want to remove the only device that has the horse under control while out on the course?
And why would they be looking for burn marks when it wasn’t certain (it still isn’t) that the other 2 horses were possibly electrocuted?
Do you live your whole life in hindsight?
Stick to handicaps, it’s more your level.
Stick to reading Dick Francis novels – they seem to be more your level.
Anyway, I thought you were going. Or do you like the attention?
And regarding the possibility of humans getting electrocuted, it seems a scientific fact that a shock that gives us nothing more than a mild tingling is enough to kill a horse.
Nick Luck, on RUK, read from a report a few years back. It stated that a slightly broken wire, 2 feet under the arena floor (which was wet) was the cause of a horse being electrocuted.
If anything like that has happened at Newbury (and it is still only speculation) then it’s an unfortunate and a bizarre series of events.
Finger pointing & hysterics really don’t help much
Joncol,
for someone who is leaving racing forever, you seemed to have stayed around for sometime now, banging on about the same thing. Are you jumping up & down, in tears, when you repeatedly post your nonsense? "Crime scene" lol – Have you thought about auditioning for Columbo?
I doubt you will listen but the horses down at the start were checked by the vets (heart rates etc) and they seemed fine. Nicky Henderson said that Kid Cassidy was withdrawn because he was too free going to post and the trainer of The Merry Giant reported he came back a bit distressed & regretted running him. The other horses seem to be ok & the "burn marks" on their mouths ar, at the moment, unconfirmed reports.
I’m not sure how you expect anyone to spot burn marks on the inside of a horses mouth while they are wearing a bridle but I’m sure you would have done.
As far as I am aware, James Willoughby is not a tipster, he is a journalist. A very good journalist. In his column, he may say he fancies X because of Y & Z, but that should not be interpreted as a tip you should follow.
Has the OP been on here since posting? Most replies seem to offer an opinion opposite to his.
you really are a miserable old sod.
You don’t like racecourses doing things to encourage people to come to their place of BUSINESS, do you?
I take it you will be happy when racecourses stop encouraging people to come to the racecourse and therefore start closing down.
Or will you then moan that some of your favourite racecourses are shut and replaced by supermarkets & housing estates?
I don’t mean you. I mean the seemingly sizeable block of supporters that are opposed to any sort of change.
It makes them look like old fuddyduddys.
What bugs me is that as a massive cricket fan, I’ve been here before. Coloured kits, day/night matches, 20/20 cricket, all of the prementioned appearing at Lords.
Everything that got introduced, some puritans would have the knives out.Oh I see, my bad. I think we agree then. The moaning about anything changing is spectacular.
Deep Sensation,
They are making laughing stocks of themselves by tinkering with the baubles and tinsel whilst the tree is falling down.
Not nearly as much as racing’s so called supporters are making laughing stocks of themselves.
Anthony, are you suggesting I’m making a fool of myself? If so can you explain how, exactly, you have come to that conclusion?
The worst thing that Racing For Change did, was put the word CHANGE in their name.
The word sends shivers down the spines
I’m really interested as to whether it’s a British thing when it comes to "change" or a world wide thing.
What is it about the British/Human psyche that we immediately think of all the negative things that could/will happen when we are faced with change?
I’d like to see them looking at making a day at the races less expensive.
Or encouraging courses to provide general admission on weekdays rather than club/tatts etc.
I’d like to see someone explain why the Towcester model is not being investigated for whether it would work elsewhere. On course attendance is the lifeblood of the sport.
I don’t really give two hoots how racing’s participants are listed in the paper but I do know that highly paid consultants should be focusing on issues that are more fundamental.
They are making laughing stocks of themselves and of the sport.
How exactly are they making a laughing stock of themselves and the sport?
A jockey won Sports Personality of the Year for the first time, something RFC were championing almost before McCoy has weighed in for the National. That will be a huge tick in the RFC boxes.
Larger number cloths & christian names may not be massive steps but it goes some way of helping the novice racegoer.
I totally agree with you about the admission prices but are racecourses (and their share-holders) willing to make less money? RFC may be banging their heads against a brick wall on that one.
Interesting as well, Phil, that you only chose to comment on the last line of my post, which is easier to moan about.
How about making comments on the other points of my post?
And why would that be Phil? Because you don’t like change?
How about having some positive thoughts, instead of moaning?
also, it’s not RFC remit to sort out the levy & prize money – that’s for the levy board & BHA to do.
Looking at RFC’s website & various press release’s etc, they are attempting to broaden racing’s appeal to a wider audience & make the race day experience more enjoyable.
If they succeed in doing this, then maybe the prize money etc will go up.
But they’ve got to contend with a fan base of "stick-in-the-muds" who don’t want anything to change.
It’s taken a body like RFC to get christian names on to racecards and larger numbers on saddle-cloths, 2 things that should’ve been thought up years ago.
And what do we have? Moaning about christian names from the fan base, moaning about the size of the numbers on saddle cloths, from the fan base.
I’ve even heard someone say "they HATE the larger numbers". What sort of sad lives do people lead where the size of a number on a cloth or the publication of christian names makes them irate?
Maybe RFC should give up & let the sport die. Then you would have something to moan about.
