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Well thank you RFC for ruining hours of work maintaining data bases by coming up with the momentous idea of changing all the trainers names by adding christian names instead of initials. This is really going to pack the crowds in and brings new millions to racing while basically pissing off your existing customers. If you get any more brilliant ideas like this try consulting first!!!
Agreed !
They have also made a four letter word of this process
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Set Mary on them Rab she’ll sort them oot
n the past how did your database handle there being 14 trainers called J Smith?
I must have missed the 14 of them but usually by using more than one initial. Now PD Evans I assume has suddenly become David and a real coup Sir Mark Prescott now has bart at the end.This just trying to justify a job
The Racing Post are making a total pigs ear.
N J Henderson became Nicholas Henderson but they still had him listed under both names, so when I looked for N J Henderson as usual he appeared to have all his information wiped off the face of the earth. Searched just by Henderson and there he was.
Today I go and look for Nicholas Henderson – no data, he’s been wiped off the face of the earth. Look for Henderson, and now he’s also listed as Nicky Henderson! Which is what I’d have expected in the first place as that’s how he’s always reported.
Mick Easterby is still Michael Easterby though. How the heck is anyone meant to find anything??
You couldn’t make it up could you, its ridiculous! I’ve said it before and I’m going to say it again on future occasions who the hell are these idiots at RFC and why doesn’t someone give them a decent job to do, such as getting rid of the pointless and worthless all weather twilight fixtures at Kempton and Wolves. How much money is being wasted putting on this crap?
Is there any text key available of the before and after names? (Jockeys as well as they also changed earlier last year.)
You couldn’t make it up could you, its ridiculous! I’ve said it before and I’m going to say it again on future occasions who the hell are these idiots at RFC and why doesn’t someone give them a decent job to do, such as getting rid of the pointless and worthless all weather twilight fixtures at Kempton and Wolves. How much money is being wasted putting on this crap?
And here is why Racing For Change or anyone who tries to do anything is on to a loser from the off.
I like the twilight fixtures at Kempton & Wolves, I’d prefer if they’d make them proper evening fixtures but they’re not.
Now then, other than saying ‘Racing For Change are idiots’ & leaving it at that, perhaps someone could explain why using a trainer’s full name is such a big deal?
Now then, other than saying ‘Racing For Change are idiots’ & leaving it at that, perhaps someone could explain why using a trainer’s full name is such a big deal?
Because it’s been badly implemented and not properly rolled out. I don’t know if that’s RFC or the racing media but when a trainer has three different names in a week it’s just confusing.
None of the newspapers will bother with it as they’re all on restricted space and many of them no longer bother to print every card every day. The majority of people – and the people Racing for Change is after – will probably get most of their information from the newspapers so they’ll have no idea about the change. In fact they will just end up confused when they go to the races, by a racecard, and find that " P D Evans" chap that they back blind doesn’t have any runners. You get home, look at the results the next day and the papers list "P D Evans" as having won three races.
Alternatively, you go to the races and back three winners trained by David Evans and go home vowing to follow him. Next day you get the newspaper and, well, he doesn’t have any runners. Nor the day after that. And so on.
What bothers me is that it’s all tinkering round the edges and doing nothing particularly useful.
If it ain’t broke then don’t fix it, tinkering for tinkerings sake.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysIt was to RFC HQ we travelled in search of the announcements board.
Having picked the lock to the main entrance, we descended by rope into the basement. By torchlight we traversed our way to the opposite end of the room where, behind a sign saying ‘beware of the gorilla’, we found it.
Pinned to it were an announcement that our latin translator claimed said ‘We do hereby announce that on the 6th day of 2011 trainer names will use first names not initials.’ Beside it was the great artifact itself, containing a list of the three scripts (the key, the original name style and the current name style):
The Rosella Stone!
Anyone who wants a copy of this prize artifact should seek me out. I go by the name rhillsisgod on twitter and yahoo.
Actually think you’re being a bit unfair as, going forward, it is surely better that we all use first names for trainers and jockeys and we don’t want to be archaic and snobby by just using initials.
Of course there will be a few teething problems at the start with databases but the change has to be made sometime and it appears a pretty cheap and good idea.
There is a piece in the RP paper today confirming that some of the anomalies such as Charlie McBride etc will be put straight and when trainers reapply for their licenses nobody will be able to use initials in the future except for the ones who have already applied to do so ie Ralph Beckett, John Hills, Barry Hills, Stan Moore, John Jenkins and Nick Alexander.
Actually think you’re being a bit unfair as, going forward, it is surely better that we all use first names for trainers and jockeys and we don’t want to be archaic and snobby by just using initials.
Of course there will be a few teething problems at the start with databases but the change has to be made sometime and it appears a pretty cheap and good idea.
There is a piece in the RP paper today confirming that some of the anomalies such as Charlie McBride etc will be put straight and when trainers reapply for their licenses nobody will be able to use initials in the future except for the ones who have already applied to do so ie Ralph Beckett, John Hills, Barry Hills, Stan Moore, John Jenkins and Nick Alexander.
I agree, Adrian. It seems crazy not to know the first names of all trainers and jockeys. Imagine football fans talking about A Ferguson, W Rooney and D Beckham
I’m sure it will all be sorted out before long and people will soon wonder what all the fuss was about.
One high profile anomaly appears to be Tony McCoy who is still referred to as AP McCoy. I’m not sure whether the use of ‘AP’ is an attempt to make him sound ‘cool’ but beyond that it doesn’t make a lot of sense for the champion jockey’s first name not to be used
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I think it’s a good idea but only if trainers and jockeys are asked to register how they want to be known
Barney Curly to Bernard Curly Nicky Henderson to Nicholas Henderson for example would be a step backwards not forwards.
Most people in racing know who "Snowy" Wainwright is but ask someone who Stanley Wainwright they wouldn’t have a clue who the hell you were talking about.
Of course there will be a few teething problems at the start with databases but the change has to be made sometime and it appears a pretty cheap and good idea.
This project is so simple, any school kid could get this correct.
Get it right first time, on time, every time. Heads should roll – God help us when they get something complex to do.
They get away with this because they have no bosses, are a quango and operate with low computer project Civil Service standards.
They are less than phuckin usless.
Backing two runners is the relentless pursuit of value. Backing each way is a shortcut to the poor house. Only 7% make a long term profit.
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