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I think it’s obvious that Peter had the Betfair forum in mind when he wrote that piece. And he is spot on. It’s only a matter of time before one of the idiots on there write something they shouldn’t and get sued for it. And it won’t be a moment too soon when it does happen.
It is my considered opinion that both Silvoir and Roy should go , and go immediately
the words good ……drink ……brewery ……spring to mind
Ricky
fortunately your opinion doesn’t count!
Are there female commentators in any other sports? I’m sure there are but I can’t think of any.
There are plenty of female voices as "colour commentators" such as golf, tennis etc. But I can’t think of any females which are the main commentators.
It won’t change anything. Race fixing has been going on since racing started 200 years ago. People will still bet on it & race meetings will still go ahead.
If fixing has been going on by experienced jockeys and they get caught (and hopefully put away for several years) it may act as a deterrent to younger jockeys.
Before we get carried away with how crooked racing is let’s not forget that recently we have had the Pakistan cricket team betting scandal (and I doubt it’s just the Pakistani team that’s involved). Plus we’ve had fixed tennis matches, snooker matches and even football matches in recent times (Italian football is rife with corruption and there are plenty of rumors about the Premier League & Scottish Football).
Unfortunately where there is betting there is corruption. Hopefully it is the minority that are corrupt rather than the majority.
I’ll look forward to your next moan when races clash. It could be tomorrow or 6 months away. But at least we know you are poised, ready at the keyboard to post when it does happen
As for your point about my post 6 weeks ago & getting an email from "Matron" (whoever he or she is) I assume you are implying that I was in some kind of trouble on here. Sorry to disappoint you but I received an email which was in regards to a member I had reported, confirming that the matter had been dealt with.
Just be grateful I’m not reporting you for keep going off topic on my thread.
I’m grateful for many things in life. Having a nobody on a forum not report me to another nobody is not one of them.
how about starting a thread where we are happy with things & can actually praise people? Or does that go against the whole ethics of a forum?
I still wonder if this "disease" of moaning is a British thing or something worldwide.
Would there be any contributions (especially from eddie) if a thread was started with the title "BHA don’t let any races clash again"?
Have you got a screw loose?
Positive, happy thinking has no place on a forum or, possibly, British society!
how about starting a thread where we are happy with things & can actually praise people? Or does that go against the whole ethics of a forum?
I still wonder if this "disease" of moaning is a British thing or something worldwide.
Would there be any contributions (especially from eddie) if a thread was started with the title "BHA don’t let any races clash again"?
Ok Eddie, so just to confirm, you are going to moan for moaning’s sake.
Maybe I’ll start a thread entitled "eddie case is moaning again because the BHA let races clash, again"
As for your point about my post 6 weeks ago & getting an email from "Matron" (whoever he or she is) I assume you are implying that I was in some kind of trouble on here. Sorry to disappoint you but I received an email which was in regards to a member I had reported, confirming that the matter had been dealt with.
Wouldn’t you have more chance of getting a reply by emailing the BHA directly with your moaning, rather than posting on a forum under a log in name? (assuming eddie case isn’t your real name)
I see Eddie, you’re just a bloke who likes moaning.
Much easier to moan than praise.
I see you’ve even moaned when British Racing clashes with foreign racing. Why do the BHA have to work around overseas racing? Why can’t they work around ours?
And where would you like the avoidance of races clashing to stop? Why don’t the BHA monitor French, German, Italian, South African & American Racing? All of which can be seen in the betting shops.
I’m sure they could find a 3 minute gap amongst all of that to let our races go. Unless there is a greyhound race scheduled.
Do you think anyone in authority is going to bother responding to you, especially as you’ve admitted you are only going to moan on the odd occasion races clash?
Eddie,
you post every time there is a clash of races, your last post being over 2 weeks ago. I assume that means the BHA had around 16 days of no races clashing.
Are you going to post every time they have a day of no clashing and praise the BHA for not letting races clash again or are you only good at criticising?
I agree. I think the electrocution theory is probably going to proved to be correct. I guess I was just playing devil’s advocate with other theories.
I had also been called "narrow minded" for suggesting "what if" scenarios were ludicrous ie what if it was Sea The Stars that was electrocuted.
So I "opened my mind" and put out a "what if… it was natural causes and how would people then feel about Newbury’s decision to abandon.
I don’t think it worked
I’ve never seen two horses electrocuted, but they may have happened yesterday. But who knows? Maybe they weren’t?
And you’ve not opened your mind to the possibility of them not being electrocuted, have you?
That would be all well and dandy if the lads and lasses of the horses hadn’t got a shock off the animals on the ground, and if they had not got burns in their mouths around the bit.
I wasn’t suggesting I believed it was natural causes, I just wanted to put out a "what if" to see how people would then think about the decision to abandon. Clearly, Philip Hobbs thought it was the wrong decision.
And as for the burns around their mouths, I’m afraid there has been no evidence to support that rogue report.
At least your "what if" was a viable one!
I still love to know why we do the "what ifs" and look at the dark side of things. It seems that I seldom hear someone saying "what if" and looking on the bright side. I know I fall into it myself & I kick myself for doing it.
"What if" means it didn’t happen. We should just deal with what happened but, for some reason, our minds wander off to worse case scenarios.
I was just putting stuff out there to see how people would think, or if they would think. Maybe a bit too much to ask on a racing forum
Although I suppose it got you thinking
And you’ve not opened your mind to the possibility of them not being electrocuted, have you?
I said nothing at all about electrocution – what I did say was that the unprecedented sight of two horses undergoing simultaneous fatal injury in the paddock would in my view, as a very regular racegoer, set off alarm bells that something was very wrong. And in that circumstance I think it was irresponsible to run the race without a better understanding of what had happened and why.
As for the horses – yes the vets passed them fit, but the post-race assessment of The Merry Giant as traumatised – as reported by the Post – tends to suggest that they weren’t all Ok.
Anyway that’s my view. You have yours and I have mine.
How many horses finish a race distressed? Should Leopardstown have abandoned yesterday after that horse died after the line (sorry, can’t remember it’s name)?
IF, and it’s a huge IF the 2 horses did not die of electrocution but in a bizarre coincidence of natural causes, what would you then think of Newbury’s decision to abandon? Still a correct one or would you jump into Philip Hobbs’ camp & they should of continued racing anyway?
