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Absolutely ludicrous to compare today with Hillsborough.
If you read what I said I wasn’t making any comparison at all, just highlighting a situation where human beings make seemingly strange decisions in tragic/stressful circumstances.
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Sounds like a nightmare
This can’t be allowed to happen. Poor horses (fatalities and the ones who sufffered electric shocks), it needs to be looked at very carefully before any racing is allowed to happen there again.
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Absolutely, a full external independent report/investigation needed to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
Racing is over at Newbury this NH season, not safe to race there again until they know 100% what happened and if they can’t find out then Newbury permanently shut. i.e there must be pressure to find out what happened rather than "just a freak accident"
As someone who works in a bookmakers, the lack of communication and understanding going on was absolutely unbelievable for a supposedly modern day sport. Nobody knew what was going on, employees, punters, and the man in the ceiling as we call him (voice over on the blower). However the correct result was eventually reached, which has to get some recognition. They could have easily had them parade and had the racing continue. Sense prevailed, take it as at least a positive, in this modern day of ‘the show must go on’ etc.
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It gets worse.
Chief Official at Newbury said the stewards asked him could he guarantee horses safety if racing continued, he said he couldn’t say 100% that the horses would be safe and since no one knew what was causing this the best thing to do is end the meeting.
He was then asked did he think it was right to run the first race, he said yes.
Remarkable since he just admitted he couldn’t guarantee horses safety.
So for those who think it was right to run the first race, fine, but it was run with the horses safety in question…
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Trainer Keith Goldsworthy, who was present at the track for runners later said he had voicedhis concerns about an electrical problem. "At around 1pm the lights in the grandstand were going on and off like a disco and I did report it to the stewards," he said.
Hello,
Someone just commented "poor horses", what fightens me is that "people" could have died, and I have owned over 60 horses.
It is a fact standards have dropped, you pay for waht you get-instead of regular electrical checks, you give free race cards, that is YOUR decision. You are accountable, but you find LORD BAGSHIT will wriggle themselves out of it.So please stop this diatribe of nonsense, but also be alert, that a race goer, (person) could be under the same threat as these "poor horses"
regards,
doyley
Give it a rest Joncol.
You have have made your position quite clear on the matter.
Regards
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Hello,
Someone just commented "poor horses", what fightens me is that "people" could have died, and I have owned over 60 horses.
It is a fact standards have dropped, you pay for waht you get-instead of regular electrical checks, you give free race cards, that is YOUR decision. You are accountable, but you find LORD BAGSHIT will wriggle themselves out of it.So please stop this diatribe of nonsense, but also be alert, that a race goer, (person) could be under the same threat as these "poor horses"
So what your’e saying is that people in the paddock should all be routine tested incase they have contracted terminal illnesses due to prolonged periods of unsafe electricity running through their body?
Joncol,
for someone who is leaving racing forever, you seemed to have stayed around for sometime now, banging on about the same thing. Are you jumping up & down, in tears, when you repeatedly post your nonsense? "Crime scene" lol – Have you thought about auditioning for Columbo?
I doubt you will listen but the horses down at the start were checked by the vets (heart rates etc) and they seemed fine. Nicky Henderson said that Kid Cassidy was withdrawn because he was too free going to post and the trainer of The Merry Giant reported he came back a bit distressed & regretted running him. The other horses seem to be ok & the "burn marks" on their mouths ar, at the moment, unconfirmed reports.
I’m not sure how you expect anyone to spot burn marks on the inside of a horses mouth while they are wearing a bridle but I’m sure you would have done.
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Stick to handicaps, it’s more your level.
Horses at the start for the first were checked by a qualified Vet Joncol prior to racing and there was no indication there was any problem on the course itself. All your talk is with the benefit of hindsight which, of course, those involved in what was clearly a very confused situation didn’t have.
Your statements that no one (racecourse, trainers, owners) cared a jot for the welfare of any horses is absurd. How long do you think a trainer who wasn’t bothered about the welfare of his horses would last?
Mistakes may well have been made today but I think you need to wait until you have some facts before you before jumping to conclusions. Presumably you weren’t there, presumably you weren’t privy to the Vets or stewards reports and presumably you haven’t a clue about who decided what, on what basis and with what information in front of them.
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"I’m not sure how you expect anyone to spot burn marks on the inside of a horses mouth while they are wearing a bridle but I’m sure you would have done." Mmmm let me think about this one, perhaps by removing it in the half hour they were waiting around prior to the race going ahead, just an idea.
And regarding the possibility of humans getting electrocuted, it seems a scientific fact that a shock that gives us nothing more than a mild tingling is enough to kill a horse.
Nick Luck, on RUK, read from a report a few years back. It stated that a slightly broken wire, 2 feet under the arena floor (which was wet) was the cause of a horse being electrocuted.
If anything like that has happened at Newbury (and it is still only speculation) then it’s an unfortunate and a bizarre series of events.
Finger pointing & hysterics really don’t help much
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