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I’m a bit of a Lydia Hislop fan myself.
I remember when she was at the start before a race working for C4. It was a bit cold to say the least and Lydia was, well, poking through her top – it was so blatent. The audio feed returned to Jimbo and Francombe, who replied "Well, it certainly looks chilly at the start". Then they started chuckling to themselves – you knew exactly what he was referring to!Just looked at the overnight declarations for Newmarket. Not too sure about anything in particular.
Waveline hits me at a decent price (around 20/1). Worth a little bit EW – not too much.
She fell out of the stalls in the Albany and Jimmy Fortune lost an iron – she was beaten around six lengths. If all goes well at the start this time she should finish a lot closer to You’resothrilling. The dryer ground will be in her favour and she comes from the yard that won this two years ago with Donna Blini.
I prefer the C4 crew to the BEEB.
IMO, Jim McGrath is the best analyst on TV – while others are always flapping and yelling about something (normally Big Mac) he tends to remain calm and talk sense. He and Francombe – my favourite personality in broadcasting – work well together. Alastair Down is another top bloke – seems to love his jumping.
Why all the bad press about Tommo and Big Mac – you gotta love ’em!! Big Mac deserves a knighthood!!
I just love Tommo’s zest for racing. The same applies to Wille Carson. Even though I’m not a huge Clare Balding fan, the pair of them do bounce well off each other. Wasn’t a big fan of Rishi Persad when he first arrived, but the guy’s growing on me.Would like to see more of Alex Hammond, though.
If Dutch Art were to win the race, would you race him exclusively at sprint distances or put him back up to a mile for, perhaps, the Sussex?
Jamie Spencer is an infuriating jockey – brilliant one minute, incredibly erratic and careless the next.
I’ve never had a problem with Dettori. I think it’s so easy to criticise him just because of his status in the sport. That being said, one of the most unforgiving rides in the history of the sport had to be Swain in the Breeders Cup Classic – what was he thinking?
From a punting point of view, the race is far too much of a headache to get invloved in.
The favourite has never raced in this grade before and needs to step up on all known form. You have a very fancied horse that is stepping back in trip by 2 furlongs. Then there is an Australian horse having his first run in England. The ground looks as it it will be completely different to the ground that Asset/Soldiers Tale and co encountered last time. Then there are the possibilities of certain horses ‘returning to form’ etc. It’s a nightmare.
For me, there is nothing wrong with the way Asset, Red Clubs or Dandy Man ran last time out and that’s where I would be looking. But I most certaingly won’t be having a bet, but watching it more as a spectacle. I would love Sakhee’s Secret to win and go on to be a dominant force in sprinting, as I really think we could do with one.
Mike
This race is not one to put the wages on. I had a small each-way bet on Notnowcato Saturday and will do so in this race. Sometimes a bet in a competitive, class race like this can spoil the occasion and cloud my post-race judgement. (
)I’d like to see Asset win. There could be as much as 8mm of rain falling on the course before Friday. He wouldn’t be disadvantaged by slow ground but I think he’d prefer quicker conditions. Therefore, my money would be on Dutch Art who, IMO, is the class act in the field and acts on any ground as he demonstrated as a 2YO.
I think Sander Camillo is still a cracking little EW bet.
I don’t like bashing jockeys, but the worst ride of the day went to Kerrin McEvoy on Montpellier – a real hard luck story. Perhaps I’m slightly bitter because my money was on!!
I’ll be on next time…
Sander Camillo could run into a place if back to her best. Reverting back to 6F for the first time since a two-year old when landing the Cherry Hinton, this CD winner receives three, six and NINE pounds from the rest of the field. She looks a tempting, if small, each-way bet.
Bosranic, it’s a Group One race. As a filly, she gets a sex allowance. The rest is weight-for-age. Basically, the field meets on level terms.
My analysis merely reflects the opinion that, should this filly be back to her best, I don’t think there’s a horse in this race that can give her nine pounds. It still remains to be seen whether she has trained on and also over her well documented problems.
I’ve never agreed with the sex allowance. It’s like saying ‘she’s a filly, so she’s automatically inferior’ – a case of human ignorance (based on the theory that women can’t run as fast as men, so it’s going to be the same with horses).
The weight-for-age concession I can agree with. Still, I don’t think there’s a classier horse in the race than Dutch Art and he’ll be receiving three and six pounds respectively – hardly a level playing field.
I love your signature Basronic. I take it your a big Zafonic fan, just like myself.
Those words you quote were from the brilliant Graham Goode if I am not mistaken. But for me his most famous words where when the horse was just about to take up the running in the 2.000 Guineas;
"And Zafonic is pulling double, he is absolutely pulling double"
I loved that comment, I loved that race, I loved the performance, I loved the commentary – brilliant.
Mike
You’re right!!
I don’t agree with everything Big Mac says but he’s right when he states that NO HORSE, past or present, would have beaten Zafonic that day. A beautiful horse with class to match – I’ve never seen a better mover. That race (with commentary) still sends a shiver down my spine. To think, he beat Barathea by nearly four lengths driven out – unbelievable. We never got to see the best of him.
Such a sad loss as a stallion. I think he died in Australia a few years ago – he could have been one of the greats.
This looks set to be a great race. I’d have to go for a horse open to improvement.
Sakhees Secret has looked impressive but will need to improve.
Dutch Art is an interesting runner. He does travel very well in his races, has a decisive turn of foot and a genuine touch of class – something a few of these lack. I just think, as previously stated by another member, this race is an after thought and I’d be more inclined to go for an older horse.
Red Clubs and Amadeus Wolf should be well aquainted by now. Both are capable of winning but are slightly exposed, especially by an improving horse.
Asset and Soldier’s Tale are deservedly at the head of the market. These respective older horses have shown the level of form required to win this race and, although four and six years old respectively, have more improvement in them having only accumulated 8 races each.
Asset would be my pick to reverse ascot form with Jeremy Noseda’s horse. The faster ground, certain electrifying pace and a slight uphill finish will suit this Mile winner. The horse was surely at a disadvantage when returning from a two month lay-off when running third last time.
Dutch Art will run a big race and Sander Camillo could run into a place if back to her best. Reverting back to 6F for the first time since a two-year old when landing the Cherry Hinton, this CD winner receives three, six and NINE pounds from the rest of the field. She looks a tempting, if small, each-way bet.
problem with the flat nowadays is there are so many group ones so horses (especially fillies) can avoid taking each other on.
[b:2isxdsai]great fillies like [/color:2isxdsai][/b:2isxdsai]oh so sharp and [b:2isxdsai]bosra sham[/color:2isxdsai] [/b:2isxdsai]didnt have many group one filly races to run in so they had to take the colts on.
i much prefer jumping for what the horses achive and the excitment it gives me…even on the coldest of daysGreat is an understatement…
As a spectacle it has to be NH for me. Nothing quite like the atmosphere generated at The Cheltenham Festival.
But nothing in racing compares to seeing a top class thoroughbred in the flesh. However, no horse quite took my breath away like Best Mate.
A few questions were fielded my way and only now have I got time to respond.
It’s still my opinion that Authorized would have beaten Notnowcato had the horse remained on the far side. Taking into consideration that Notnowcato was not only running on quicker, but fresh ground.
It’s true that the horse wasted ground when Ryan made the manouvre. However, take a look at the replay. Turning for home Notnowcato had a four lenghth lead over Authorized. Passing the two furlong marker, the eventual winner appears to be trailing the field (a good marker is where the railing is replaced by hedges on the stands side).
It’s therefore apparent that the quicker, fresher ground enabled the horse to regain the lead and, inevitably, win the race.
Do I think that beating GW a head enables Authorized to win an Arc? Well, beating a previous Guineas winner who wouldn’t look out of place in the July Cup for speed over 10F isn’t bad form. I just think the conditions will also suit the horse. The ground is not a problem for this Derby winner who travels well in his races and also posseses the neccesary blend of speed and stamina you need to win an Arc. Peter Chapple Hyam is also a master at peaking his horses for a big race – and there’s no bigger all-age race in europe than the Arc.
Take Care
Was this thread inspired by the ‘eclipse’ of Authorized?
I don’t think a 3YO has to win decisively against older horses – a win is a win. I don’t even think the term ‘give him another chance’ applies here. The horse deserves credit for running the great race that he has – only beaten by an inspired and brave piece of riding.
If you want Authorized to win in grand style against his elders then you won’t have to wait too long – about three months. I hope you like French food…
Anyone think that after his fine efforts at Epsom, Ascot and now his staying-on performance in the Eclipse, Yellowstone could be an EW shout for the St Leger? He’s currently a 20-1 shot with the Tote.
He’s not bred to stay, although he is related to a couple of 12F winners.
Pacemakers can spoil a race but in this particular race it seemed beneficial. Can anyone argue with the result?
The proven Group 1 horse in the conditions won, the Derby runners finished in the same order they did at Epsom, George Washington ran a fine race and proved he stayed 10F in a truly run race, Kandidate ran as well as expected and the pacemaker finished last (the sign of a job well done).
I have already made this comment in another thread. I don’t blame the other jockeys. It was a very intelligent move by Ryan Moore – more guts than brains, though.
Reading the comments on this page and other areas of the media, it’s no wonder they don’t make such manoeuvres…if they don’t succeed they get criticized left, right and centre.
I remember when she was at the start before a race working for C4. It was a bit cold to say the least and Lydia was, well, poking through her top – it was so blatent. The audio feed returned to Jimbo and Francombe, who replied "Well, it certainly looks chilly at the start". Then they started chuckling to themselves – you knew exactly what he was referring to!