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  • #49814
    Irish Stamp
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    Not a TV tipster but all those one’s you see on teletext particularly Isiris

    #49815
    PAULCS
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    <br>Don’t like Aussie Jim, Lesley, Plunkett, Angus & Cochrane at all.

    I would stick with Tanya but only because of her fantastic tipping!

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    Quote: from PAULCS on 10:22 pm on Mar. 30, 2007[br]

    <br>I would stick with Tanya but only because of her fantastic tipping!

    I always think one of great things about horse racing is having your own opinion about a race or races and I’m always amazed when someone praises someone else for their tipping, presumably they have followed these tips with their hard earned and collected. Is this true PAULCS because quite a few on this thread have praised Tanya for her tips. <br>If anyone including Barry Dennis would like to back Tanyas tips I will lay them.

    The offer is there, put your money your mouth is lads.<br>

    (Edited by yeats at 10:58 pm on Mar. 30, 2007)

    #49817
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    I think Tanya is a pretty poor TV presenter, but she’s a bloody good pundit. I almost thought about sticking a daft couple of quid on her tips week-on-week, I’d imagine the returns would be pretty good as she’s given some big-priced winners and places this season.

    I also think that Francombe is a joy to listen to in analysis of a race, you can tell he’s known, understood and perceived everything that has just happened exactly as the jockeys have. I don’t see him tipping as many winners on a Saturday morning as you’d expect though.

    I agree that Derek Thompson is a joke. Something about the man just makes me give him no respect at all. It may be his apparent lack of knowledge of what he’s doing, especially considering his hundreds of years experience.

    Jim McGrath is the most quantitative tipster known to man.  If horse racing were an exact science, I’d listen to him all day. Needless to say it is absolutely anything but, and thus I don’t.

    And McCririck is light relief to wake you up a bit, but at the end of the day there’s a reason he failed as a bookie.

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    I’m not sure how many of the above can actual be referred to as Tipsters, and therefore may be coming in for undue crictism.

    For example, surely Tanya’s role on C4 is to comment on what’s happening on the exchanges in responce to Big Mac’s view of the betting ring. The fact that she ‘tips’ or I think in her case expresses an opinion, is just part of the entertainment business she is in.

    #49819
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    <br>yeats,

    I think that some of the casual Saturday afternoon viewers will follow Tanya’s tips blindly but I can honestly say that I’ve never backed a horse because of something she said.

    My wallet may well be a bit more chunkier if I had of mind!

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    Quote: from Mounty on 12:28 pm on Mar. 30, 2007[br]<br>Best…choose from Robert Cooper, Steve Mellish, Eddie Freemantle, Dave Nevison and Sam Turner.<br>

    <br>Can’t argue with any of those (particularly enjoy Sam’s RUK appearances), and I’d add Lydia Hislop and Jonathan Neesom to that list.

    gc<br>

    Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.

    #49821
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    There aren’t any racing presenters that give me the urge to publicly slag them off every week.<br>I found Declan Murphy (when he was on) and Willie Carson the most irritating, and John McCririck is the one person I can’t make my mind up about.<br>I think I like him, and I would miss him him if he buggered off, but then at other times he comes across as a right arrogant bar steward, and I don’t like that.<br>Unlike Mounty, I could watch Matt Chapman all day, he makes me laugh, and he gives you plenty of information. <br>Also, and it seems unlike just about everyone else on every forum in the country, I haven’t got a bad word to say about Derek Thompson, in fact he might even be my favourite out of the lot of them. I like Francome too and Zoey Bird, and I could like Dave Compton a bit more if he stopped slagging off the placepot. <br>That just leaves Dale McKeown, who I like, and who made me quite a few bob with his tips on the American racing, but listening to him for too long is like listening to the same song all day and every day for a week. :) <br>The rest are all pretty average as far as I’m concerned.

    #49822
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    Ted

    Let me get this straight?<br>So you like John McCririck, Derek Thompson, Matt Chapman, and Zoey Bird, and the rest are "all pretty average"?<br>Either you’re on a wind-up, or a refugee from CeeBeebies?:o

    #49823
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    Mickey Fletcher aka The Aspargus Kid used to be ok

    #49824
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    Cannot stand "talk with your eyes closed" Jim McGrath. He is an overbearing arrogant man.

    Tanya does give some good long priced winners and I m sure to a level stake would be in front over the season.

    Still think there are too many "bools in the mouth" commentators hence the reason I put up with Big Mac as he tells it like it is.

    #49825
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    It isn’t my intention to fawn on current contirbutors to this forum, (Was it ever?:) ), but I thought Richard Hoiles did a thoroughly professional job today, presenting from Haydock for CH4.<br>Smooth links, no bufoonery, sensible interviews which elicited informative responses but, most of all, showed the capacity to think for himself in evaluating horses, rather than quoting direct from the Racing Post or computer forums.<br>Nice one Richard; any more like you at home, as they are sorely needed at the moment?

    #49826
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    creep

    #49827
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    Quote: from clivex on 8:50 pm on May 26, 2007[br]creep

    Just a little thing called sincerity, which you Southerners would have difficulty recognising.;)

    #49828
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    For a novice like myself I find listening to Steve Mellish very educational. He gives an excellant pre race analysis as regards his opinion to the chances of the runners in each race. He is also quick to point out, post race, when he has been off the mark. Alot of pundits like to ignore, in their post race analysis, the fact that they gave the winner no chance.<br>It is also very impressive how, on the first showing of a replay immediately after a race, Mellish goes through almost every runner describing their run like he had watched a replay numerous times.<br>James Willoughby is another I enjoy listening too.

    #49829
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    I remember seeing James Willoughby, I think his name is, standing next to another bloke talking into the the mike, and pulling the most hilarious faces to somebody "off-stage". What it was all about, I can’t imagine, but he is now engraved in my memory as a terrific character. He also seems very knowledgeable. I like Tanya, too. She seems a sweet girl.

    (Edited by Grimes at 12:45 am on May 27, 2007)

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    Think the guy in the RUK betting booth yesterday deserves a mention. Apparently he has many jobs in racing but his knowledge of the sport is severley limited. Two winners yesterday were previously totally unsuited to the twist and turns of Chester but much more suited to the galloping nature of the Catterick track according to him.<br>For someone who is a racecourse announcer is pronunciation is terrible, repeatedly called Hoh Mike, Oi Mike, Jim Crowley, John Crawley and often gets the christian names of jockeys wrong.<br>How do they manage to get all these jobs when they know so little about the sport?

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