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Erm, I am a bit surprised Zoso you are justifying a losing tip?
I cant say I have seen this too many times on a forum (if at all).
Now, if you are justifying your means of deduction, then fine, you have made a number of points that may be true over time.
However on this occasion the animal you stated should be 4/6 was beaten fair and square. In your intial tip you failed to acknowledge the favourite was getting a hefty 4 year old’s allowance and this coupled with his experience over hurdles were compelling reasons to avoid Quizzene.
Also, as I previously stated, King’s fancied horses are usually backed heavily. This hrose wasn’t.
The bet you should have had was a place on the Exchanges which presumably paid about 4/5? However your e/w was a loser, however you want to dress it up.
Erm, I am a bit surprised Zoso you are justifying a losing tip?
I cant say I have seen this too many times on a forum (if at all).
Now, if you are justifying your means of deduction, then fine, you have made a number of points that may be true over time.
However on this occasion the animal you stated should be 4/6 was beaten fair and square. In your intial tip you failed to acknowledge the favourite was getting a hefty 4 year old’s allowance and this coupled with his experience over hurdles were compelling reasons to avoid Quizzene.
Also, as I previously stated, King’s fancied horses are usually backed heavily. This hrose wasn’t.
The bet you should have had was a place on the Exchanges which presumably paid about 4/5? However your e/w was a loser, however you want to dress it up.
I understand that most punters will not understand someone being happy with a bet that loses money.
As far as I am concerned as long as I am happy with my bet beforehand then I am happy with it afterwards wether it wins, loses or draws. If I believe my reasons to be sound for having the bet and the price in my view represented value then I have no complaints regardless of what happened in the race. I understand how you may not be able to understand this logic though.You said the horse wasn’t backed. This is untrue it was quite heavily punted. 9/2 was available with one of the small bookmakers early, with 4/1 being the general available price. It went off at 11/4 so it was certainly punted.
I didnt fail to acknowledge that the favourite was getting a hefty weight allowance. All 4yos get this weight allowance in these races and 9 times out of 10 I will be taking them on. I believe I stated I was against this horse as it was a 4yo taking on its elders for the first time (I assumed most people would realise and understand that a 4yo does recieve plenty of weight in these races).
You say I should have had a place bet only on the horse. Why tell me that after? Its a bit easy to see the results and then say "you should have backed place only" after it finished 2nd.
As I said I’m perfectly happy with the bet, if I wasn’t then I would not have placed it in the first place.
Zoso I accept I am aftertiming, as I said on my first post.
I usually find with King that when they know they have a good one at home it gets seriously backed early and goes favourite. Which I suspect is what you half expected to happen with Quizzene.
Good luck in the future with your strategy, hope you win.
Keep us posted.
I thought it was worth upping this thread in light of the entertaining rhubarb about Denmania.
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Rather mischievous of you, Alan!
Colin
BTW, were you at Newbury yesterday?…………..I didn’t see you!
Colin,
Not intended as mischevious – I thought this thread showed that Zoso was capable of reasoned debate before Denmania struck.
No, I wasn’t at Newbury.
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