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Whatever happened to…Harry Findlay?

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    He seems to have disappeared off the racing stage, or have I missed something?

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    He was declared bankrupt in 2013, hoofed it to Australia for a while, and is now reported to be keeping a low profile back here in Blighty

    Yawn: will the circle be unbroken?

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    He had been involved in Brandon dog track a few years back, which was quite a decent facility being the home of Elite League Coventry Bees speedway. Eventually the greyhound side folded and despite various attempts to re-open, it seems to have finally closed it’s doors earlier this year.

    I know he was declared bankrupt at Warwick Crown Court in early 2013 and since then seems to have disappeared. Don’t know if he still owes or is still owed (or neither) but he appears to have drawn stumps gambling-wise, giving us a perhaps a salutary lesson in the nature of the game.

    Mike

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    Thanks – yes, lessons for gambling (and life itself) aplenty in that story by the sound of it.

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    If you watch a documentary on youtube about him then he comes across as a bit of a guesser. Also an action addict who had to have bets

    obviously he must have had some talent as a gambler to reach the heights he did, bit of a sad fall though, you’ve got all the limelight with the great denman then a few years later you’re completely brassic. :-(

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    I wonder if he could change history and have been a plumber or joiner whether he would?

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    I wonder if he could change history and have been a plumber or joiner whether he would?

    Well I think you already know the answer to that question, of course not, the stories he could tell would make a great book.

    Maybe I’ll approach him and ask if I could write his biography. B-)

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    Last week the RPGTv stated that a book was in the pipe-line about Harry the Dog, possibly available by Chrimbo. The author’s name alluded me, but he has been published previously.

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    Well he made the most of his ten minutes when he had it, and what memories he’ll have to sustain him in his dotage.

    Have to admit been fascinated by the bloke after reading a piece he did with Sue Montgomery many moons ago, about his high turnover low percentage return, exchange based approach, which is the method I’ve used ever since.

    The gloss wore off of course, but I’d deffo buy his book.

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    There have been a few before him and there will be a few more in the locker. The men who really make money at the game are the ones you rarely, if ever, hear of.

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    I think he is what a lot on non-racing people see as what a professional gambler looks like.

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    He must have had some great times with the mighty Denman.

    One thing is for sure, the road to propunterville is absolutely littered with casualties piled up high the whole way.

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    Wasn’t he buying ‘Lottery’ winning tickets on a weekly basis too?…Must have forked out fortunes to do that.

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    I recall I read on some other forum that he had rather a cruel nickname in the betting ring, given by bookmakers who were tired of taking his bets on credit

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    There have been a few before him and there will be a few more in the locker. The men who really make money at the game are the ones you rarely, if ever, hear of.

    Not true, Ginger posts here a lot ;-)

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    I don’t make anywhere near enough to call it “really making money”, Judge. :lol: Come to that it’s a long time since I’ve made any money atall. Fairly innoculous on theracingforum too. Steeplechasing has a good point, the really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.

    Harry Findlay always struck me as in the same tradition as Terry Ramsden. Ever since saying value wasn’t important, things were always going to go wrong for Harry sooner or later. ie Betting long odds-on means you’ll probably go on long winning runs, so if you’re staking high it will appear the punter is doing well.

    eg If betting @ combined odds of 1/12 then (if bookies have it right and allowing for a mark up) it’s around 95% chance of victory – massively probable of a win. But there’s still a 5% chance of losing. Time will come when that small percentage chance of losing actually happens a time or three and means a heavy loss. Bookies knew this and were happy to take his bets – until debts weren’t paid.

    Value Is Everything
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    Yes I’m sure you’re right ginger mate.

    In a way Harry is the living embodiment of what we were discussing on that other thread, to be a long term winner you need to have an almost boring personality. Harry won a lot more than most punters could ever dream of but I doubt it was about the money for him, it was about “being in the game”

    Wonder what he thinks now.

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