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What happened to that guy that used to go around putting 100k cash on those 1/5 shots. It was on CH4 a few years ago that he used to turn up with carrier bags full of cash.
Probably made a fortune and drinking cocktails on a beach in Barbados now
Wasn’t he buying ‘Lottery’ winning tickets on a weekly basis too?…Must have forked out fortunes to do that.
He was the type to risk £100,000 to win £10,000. Helps when you’re getting good stable info but the wheels fall off that wagon every single time – just depends how much money you keep in your pockets during the fall.
Steeplechasing has a good point, the really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.
Why would the more successful gamblers be known to you and Steeplechasing if no one knows who they are, or even if they exist?
Come on, lets have some names to back up your claims
Doubt Harry is living the life of a pauper, probably got a mansion somewhere in the countryside.
Steeplechasing has a good point, the really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.
Why would the more successful gamblers be known to you and Steeplechasing if no one knows who they are, or even if they exist?
Come on, lets have some names to back up your claims
Doubt Harry is living the life of a pauper, probably got a mansion somewhere in the countryside.
Well they knew Steve, but he left
Steeplechasing has a good point, the really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.
Why would the more successful gamblers be known to you and Steeplechasing if no one knows who they are, or even if they exist?
Come on, lets have some names to back up your claims
Doubt Harry is living the life of a pauper, probably got a mansion somewhere in the countryside.
Others do know who they are, Yeats.
Am not bringing their names in to it because their characteristics and life are entirely up to them.
We’ve already seen how pro gamblers on this thread have been described as “boring” and I have no right to bring their names in to this thread without their say so.Value Is Everythingthe really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.
If they were that good they would be called pro investors……..
And if their bets were such a big secret, how would you know about them.?
or are you going by the size of their brief caseGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
the really successful professional gamblers I know, tend to be more laid back characters, not overly exitable.
If they were that good they would be called pro investors……..
And if their bets were such a big secret, how would you know about them.?
or are you going by the size of their brief caseMost of them must live near Ginger, could be the place to live if you want to be a successful punter/investor, a bit like the Bermuda Triangle. Maybe we should all move there if we want a better chance at being successful punters/investors.
Whenever the difference between the ‘exciting’ Findlay, Ramsden, Nevison…types and the ‘boring’ ?…types is discussed here on TRF I point the reader to that estimable study of gambling psyche: ‘The Cincinnati Kid’ starring Steve McQueen as Findlay etc and Edward G Robinson as ? etc. Do watch it if you haven’t
Here’s the ending:
If you watch a documentary on youtube about him then he comes across as a bit of a guesser. Also an action addict who had to have bets
obviously he must have had some talent as a gambler to reach the heights he did, bit of a sad fall though, you’ve got all the limelight with the great denman then a few years later you’re completely brassic.
This ^^^^. The only part of this post I disagree with, and I quote. “If you watch a documentary on youtube about him then he comes across as a bit of a guesser”. He did not come across as a ‘bit’ of a guesser Judge you’re too kind, he came across as a total and utter guesser, someone who had a problem with gambling. (There’s no way that documentary would have portrayed the worst of him either).
I have some fair experience in the field, I am a long term horse racing punter, but more importantly I was a grade one Mayfair trained croupier in my youth. I’ve taken millions from people who don’t care, I’ve also watched people who do care fall to bits and lose everything. Many, many times over. I’ve had vast experience of ‘problem gamblers’. Watching that documentary many years ago, it was very obvious for me to see that Harry had a bad problem. The odds are the odds. You cannot beat the odds, unless you have an edge. Harry did have an edge, sometimes. But Harry wanted/needed to bet all of the time, when the odds were not in his favor. There’s only one way in which that was ever going to end. Unfortunately, it did.
Whenever the difference between the ‘exciting’ Findlay, Ramsden, Nevison…types and the ‘boring’ ?…types is discussed here on TRF I point the reader to that estimable study of gambling psyche: ‘The Cincinnati Kid’ starring Steve McQueen as Findlay etc and Edward G Robinson as ? etc. Do watch it if you haven’t
Here’s the ending:
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Good viewing Drone
Was Gingertipster the coloured lad in the street?
Was Gingertipster the coloured lad in the street?
Can’t be sure of course as no one knows who the boring professional punters are; but it seems very likely, as the lengthy pontification the poor, knackered-but-exciting chancer was subjected to when he needed it least was very Ginger-like
The voluminous flat cap could well have been concealing an enormous gingernut and the shoe-shine kit whilst ostensibly used to black-up in the bogs at Newbury Racecourse was, given its robust construction and sturdy canvas strap, quite probably also containing the last ten editions of Timeform Perspective and the Table Of Odds And Chances carved on a polished-granite tablet
Furthermore the ‘lad of colour’ obviously new which of the dimes had been awarded a Timeform p
It’s this sort of attention to detail that sorts the boring from the exciting
Ho ho
I honestly think I could last about 30 seconds in Mr Findlay’s company before scanning for the exits.
I’m sure he’d think the same about me, mind.
Mike
It’s a hard-hearted business. The help available these days to problem gamblers isn’t sufficient but at least something is in place. One really loud character from my youth made plenty in the betting business for being a sort of Harry Findlay on the other side – John Banks, the Glasgow bookie, father of Geoff.
Talk of Findlay’s documentary and of him ‘having to have a bet’ reminded me of another documentary from long ago of John Banks. There was a scene at Shawfield dogs. A punter had done his money on the race just finished; it had ended in a photo finish which had been won by a head (fairly plain to see even before the result was announced). The guy who’d lost hurries up to Banks:
‘What price a head?’
‘No offers. I’ll give you evens a neck.’
‘But what price a head?’
‘I’m not betting on a head. You can have evens a neck.’
‘I don’t want a neck! Give me a price on a head!’
‘You can have evens a neck. That’s it.’
‘Right I’ll have fifty at evens a neck.’The head verdict is announced. The guy walks away. Banks smiles and says to the interviewer, ‘He knew it was never a neck, but he had to have a bet.’
It made for sad watching and has always stuck with me.
I think it’s fair to say I was somewhat wrong to describe all successful gamblers as extremely boring, just that you do need some semblance of control.
I once knew a guy called Michael Stoop, who won awards for bravery during World War II. He was a good friend of Lord Lucan who was a terrible gambler. Stoop however was a great gambler and top class backgammon player. Clearly a lack of fear if you are going to be successful at gambling is also very important.
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