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I love the film , The Cincinnati Kid . I remember watching it on tv in the early seventies . Steve McQueen was the epitome of cool . He was essentially just playing his Hilts character from The Great Escape , or probably he was just playing himself , as he did in most films .
As for dear ol’ ‘arry. Well , unfortunately his ego outgrew his betting bank and like The Cincinnati Kid , he just couldn’t resist that one last bet . He just didn’t have the required temperament to last the course .
The prerequisites for successful punting : temperament ; when to bet and when not to bet , allied to a good staking plan , good knowledge of the sports you’re betting on , and a basic understanding of the odds – oh ,and a healthy betting bank .
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
The prerequisites for successful punting : temperament ; when to bet and when not to bet , allied to a good staking plan , good knowledge of the sports you’re betting on , and a basic understanding of the odds – oh ,and a healthy betting bank .
Do you pass, on all that criteria yourself, Himself?
Do you pass on all that criteria yourself, Himself?
Apart from the betting bank , which , like myself , is more healthy at certain times than others , I like to think that I tick most of the other boxes , especially on the knowledge and temperament sides. I am very self disciplined now ; much more so than I used to be when I was younger and certainly more impulsive. Where once , I had to have a bet on a certain race or event just to have an ” interest ” , I now hold fire and keep my powder dry .
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
Findlay isn’t the sort of bloke I would care to spend any time with (the documentary on Youtube is enough!) but in a strange sort of way I have a lot of admiration for him.
That devil may care attitude made him rich.OK,he lost it all in the end but he lived a life that most people can only dream of without having to break his back everyday in a job he hates.The story of when he went to Australia with 37k of the bookies money that he won on the King George and came back with £500 after living like a king and travelling around in helicopters going greyhound racing is the stuff of legends.What would the rest of us do?Stick it in the bank and watch it dwindle away while we paid for new boilers,conservatories and other joyless things.
He also completely changed tennis betting forever all on his own.Say what you want about the bloke (compulsive gambler,guesser etc) but he had a pair of bollocks bigger than footballs and was prepared to put his money where his mouth is.
Having said that I hope he enjoys his retirement and stays away from the game as he obviously cannot control himself and his blood pressure must have been through the roof!
Findlay isn’t the sort of bloke I would care to spend any time with (the documentary on Youtube is enough!) but in a strange sort of way I have a lot of admiration for him.
That devil may care attitude made him rich.OK,he lost it all in the end but he lived a life that most people can only dream of without having to break his back everyday in a job he hates.The story of when he went to Australia with 37k of the bookies money that he won on the King George and came back with £500 after living like a king and travelling around in helicopters going greyhound racing is the stuff of legends.What would the rest of us do?Stick it in the bank and watch it dwindle away while we paid for new boilers,conservatories and other joyless things.
He also completely changed tennis betting forever all on his own.Say what you want about the bloke (compulsive gambler,guesser etc) but he had a pair of bollocks bigger than footballs and was prepared to put his money where his mouth is.
Having said that I hope he enjoys his retirement and stays away from the game as he obviously cannot control himself and his blood pressure must have been through the roof!
I’d agree with most of that, although what happens if he can’t retire? I think the problem for someone like Harry is he couldn’t do a normal nine to five job, he’d go insane
I see nothing glamorous rewarding or exciting in any of the above
Personally I dont ahve a 9 to 5 job and love what im doing without having to act like a tit with my money. Life is far more than flashing wads of notes about at half wits who are weirdly impressed
I see nothing glamorous rewarding or exciting in any of the above
Personally I dont ahve a 9 to 5 job and love what im doing without having to act like a tit with my money. Life is far more than flashing wads of notes about at half wits who are weirdly impressed
People are free to live their lives how they please, and Harry clearly enjoyed the lifestyle he had, so fair play to him. Whilst many of the contributors to this forum are likely very disciplined gamblers, the reality is that most people who wager on horses do so for a thrill and for the chance to hit it big. Without these people there would be no racing for us all to enjoy.
That devil may care attitude made him rich.OK,he lost it all in the end but he lived a life that most people can only dream of without having to break his back everyday in a job he hates.The story of when he went to Australia with 37k of the bookies money that he won on the King George and came back with £500 after living like a king and travelling around in helicopters going greyhound racing is the stuff of legends.What would the rest of us do?Stick it in the bank and watch it dwindle away while we paid for new boilers,conservatories and other joyless things.
Clivexx’s reply said it all really but I’d add that the sort of lifestyle Findlay chose is dependent on those with jobs they may hate and who spend their hard-earnt on joyless things in order to make their existence as comfortable as possible. These good-people-and-true are the role models to emulate, not the selfish cash-flashers
Findlay of course has the right to behave as he did but in the free world, with rights come also reponsibilties: a should-be truism that seems to be overlooked all too often
And I for one have no wish to piss 37K against a wall, even if the lavvy is 5-Star
Each to their own I guess,it is funny how people like Findlay completely polarise opinion.
As I say he is not my type of bloke and I certainly wouldn’t wish to live my life the way he has done with his,but at the end of the day he won the money fair and square and spent it on what he wanted to spend it on.
I thought fair play to the man. Made it lost it and enjoyed himself. Not many can say that.
The sport needs poeple like him.
Tried to google him and it seems he is on twitter but whether he is still gambling is anyones guess.I feel the most relevant comment came from another thread,those who really make it pay and are most likely to continue to do so seek to stay below the radar.Harry was a character and racing needs these but any experienced backer watching that utube material must have felt more apprehension than admiration.? The only beef i had with Harry was when speaking of Roi he said “No one beats 8%” rather a bold all in comment and not correct.
He keeps the memory’s which few will have.
I feel the most relevant comment came from another thread,those who really make it pay and are most likely to continue to do so seek to stay below the radar.
What evidence has anyone that is true, is it just based on a feeling? If it is true maybe it’s because a much much higher percentage of gamblers are below the radar. How many big gamblers are/or have been above the radar?
For instance do you or anyone else think Harry Findlay would have been more successful if he had stayed below the radar?
Gingertipster is well above the radar and look how successful he is. He is that successful he refers to himself as an investor rather than a gambler.
Gingertipster is well above the radar and look how successful he is. He is that successful he refers to himself as an investor rather than a gambler.
Oh Yeats,
Nice of you to exaggerate my success, but TRF barely registers on the radar and I am only on TRF.
I am not “that” successful, just make a small living over the last few years and not made anything in months.Definition Of Investor: Someone who commits capital in order to gain financial returns.
Every “professional gambler” is an investor, indeed every punter who bets for profit is an “investor”.
Value Is EverythingSo do you work GT or is this the wife’s department or are you living off savings if not making enough “investing” to live off.
Sorry if you think I’m being nosy GT. I have fairly decent savings and not currently enjoying the job I am in. I am single (that’s why I’ve got savings) and thinking about giving up work for a while and then maybe go into a new career or even the same career but probably a lower salary (possibly part time) at a later date. I will have to cut costs but I will have a Gambling Fund which hopefully may in time turn into an Investing fund. The trouble is that even though I will have more time on my hands I will probably not put much more into the homework so this will probably continue as gambling money. Still have to do the proper Maths for this to see how long I could survive earning very little income, with interest rates being piss poor for us savers.
So do you work GT or is this the wife’s department or are you living off savings if not making enough “investing” to live off.
Sorry if you think I’m being nosy GT. I have fairly decent savings and not currently enjoying the job I am in. I am single (that’s why I’ve got savings) and thinking about giving up work for a while and then maybe go into a new career or even the same career but probably a lower salary (possibly part time) at a later date. I will have to cut costs but I will have a Gambling Fund which hopefully may in time turn into an Investing fund. The trouble is that even though I will have more time on my hands I will probably not put much more into the homework so this will probably continue as gambling money. Still have to do the proper Maths for this to see how long I could survive earning very little income, with interest rates being piss poor for us savers.
If you don’t count betting as “work”, then no I don’t work, Homer. Don’t claim any benefits either. My girlfriend does work but she lives elsewhere so doesn’t contribute to bills, just food. I’d advise paying off the mortgage before you start if serious about doing this for a living… And only do it if you’ve made a profit over many years/thousands of bets. Anyone can have one good (or poor) year, it’s the overall total that counts.
The mind is important, profitable punters need to keep looking at races in exactly the same way. Although a lot of punters are able to make a profit with comparitively small stakes, betting in larger sums can affect confidence/the way you look at a race subconsciously; making the wrong conclusions as to where the value is. Every punter has their own comfortable level of stakes.
If your method of form study is profitable then don’t change it, there’s no need to change the amount of time you spend on studying unless you’re not making enough… And if not making enough (percentage profit) then don’t do it! tbh I don’t see why it would be a “gambling fund” that turns in to an “investing fund”. Sounds to me you’ve got too many doubts at the moment.
Your finances sound good, but be aware car insurance takes a hike and won’t be able to get credit/mortgages etc. If giving up work for a while and then going back to it later, that break may not look good to your prospective future employer.
Sorry if sounding negative, I love it but is not to be taken lightly and not all a bed of roses.
Value Is EverythingThat devil may care attitude made him rich.OK,he lost it all in the end but he lived a life that most people can only dream of without having to break his back everyday in a job he hates.The story of when he went to Australia with 37k of the bookies money that he won on the King George and came back with £500 after living like a king and travelling around in helicopters going greyhound racing is the stuff of legends.What would the rest of us do?Stick it in the bank and watch it dwindle away while we paid for new boilers,conservatories and other joyless things.
Clivexx’s reply said it all really but I’d add that the sort of lifestyle Findlay chose is dependent on those with jobs they may hate and who spend their hard-earnt on joyless things in order to make their existence as comfortable as possible. These good-people-and-true are the role models to emulate, not the selfish cash-flashers
Findlay of course has the right to behave as he did but in the free world, with rights come also reponsibilties: a should-be truism that seems to be overlooked all too often
And I for one have no wish to piss 37K against a wall, even if the lavvy is 5-Star
Its probably not fair to judge from afar but i wonder how much he really did “enjoy” the “lifestyle”. I often think heavy gambling or near suicidal risk taking is compensating for something else and ultimately doesnt work of course
Its a bit like those berks that climb mountains who end up like a frozen chicken at Asda or those nutters who jump off buildings with a hankie as parachute and end up being scraped up with a shovel
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