The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

2018 Ultima Handicap Chase

Home Forums Archive Topics Cheltenham Archive Cheltenham 2018 2018 Ultima Handicap Chase

Viewing 17 posts - 35 through 51 (of 82 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1344855
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
    Moderator
    • Total Posts 16034

    Flyers, this has always been 24 hours decs

    Cheers again for the stats.

    #1344857
    Flyers Nap
    Participant
    • Total Posts 288

    Should read “Prior to 2014″…….not 2015

    Thanks VTC…..thought I would check,seen somewhere suggesting all races 48 hrs,now that would give us all a little more time,or add to the confusion probably.

    The first handicap of the meeting,historically the Irish have struggled in this one,not so sure they will this year,plenty of form lines hopefully for the rest of the meeting,both handicap and graded.One of my favourite races,always go a good gallop,and the chance of a decent priced winner.This could set the tone for the rest of the week,suggestions the handicapper has been lenient to those travelling over,will be examined here.

    #1344859
    Avatar photocharlie87
    Participant
    • Total Posts 890

    Graded form in the last 12 months and recording best RPR over 3m is also worth factoring it

    #1344862
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
    Moderator
    • Total Posts 16034

    Apologies in advance Flyers,if this has been changed to 48 hours

    #1344864
    Flyers Nap
    Participant
    • Total Posts 288

    No need to apologise VTC….like the whole 4 days,I,m always in the dark :yes:

    Would not disagree there Charlie87,personally I like to use the OR as a baseline,never really spent any time looking at RPR…..do you use them?

    As I said few weeks ago Charlie87,if you bring last years final day form to the table,then we will all look like selling platers,the one place to find a little form is here,long may that continue.

    #1344867
    Avatar photoKevMc
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1326

    Whole festival is 48 hour declarations chaps.

    #1344893
    Avatar photobigslips
    Participant
    • Total Posts 35

    is monbeg notorious likely to come here or the NH chase?? cannot see any recent comments from the stable

    #1344898
    ham
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3633

    Not coming to cheltenham

    #1344905
    Avatar photoraymo61
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6943

    Mossback at 25/1 NRNB is a big price for me!!

    Only have a length behind Monbeg Notorious last time out and would have been two pound better off with that one.

    Sorry to say Dingo Dollar is the other one I fancy at 16/1. As a few on here fancy it looks like great minds and all that!! LOL

    #1344910
    TomBarkley87
    Participant
    • Total Posts 1835

    The Storyteller goes in the Plate.

    #1345001
    msercs
    Participant
    • Total Posts 163

    On a few bits and pieces of old form, plus course form, i would give Viconte Du Noyer a good each way chance.

    Can’t wait for it to all start now !

    Martin

    #1345382
    atthepost
    Participant
    • Total Posts 238

    I’ve backed three for this

    ANTEPOST- SINGLEFARMPAYMENT 14/1

    NOW- I really fancy Vicente at 33/1 EW & Ibis Du Rheu 33/1 EW

    The best handicapped horse in the race is Ibis Du Rheu off 141. He won Martin Pipe off 139 and has ran very well at cheltenham off 146 top weight finishing 3rd to royal vacation at 2017 trails day in 2.5m Handicap. He was hampered very badly that day and off 141 he has a massive chance.

    I think he will get the trip ok. What im most concerned about if the ground gets to heavy for him. I think he is way over priced at 33/1. Hes unexposed, previous festival winner and the Trainer is bang inform. I expect the headgear to go on and hopefully he will out run his odds at 33/1

    good luck all

    #1345548
    LostSoldier3
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 1874

    Looks like the ground has scuppered me here too – Viconte Du Noyer is not going to like it soft.

    Coo Star Sivola looks pretty short for me, especially with Lizzie Kelly up in such a competitive race that puts riding ability at a premium. Similarly Gold Present with the left-handed track and ground not ideal. Singlefarmpayment is a bit soft and looks to have gone the wrong way somewhat.

    If any sort of headgear is applied, I’ll be all over Vintage Clouds. Also might play Band Of Blood if he squeaks in.

    They’ll probably be my darts. Disappointed not to have a really confident pick in the race this year. Like VTC, I think this one has been better for me than any other Cheltenham Festival race.

    #1345710
    Nausered
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 585

    I could not believe this morning, that Dingo Dollar was not in the final line up. Any news anywhere as to why he’s not running? Luckily almost everything I had on him was NRNB, I think I have a couple of Hills bets which only pay if he does not run at festival… It was his only entry so should get my cash back there too.

    #1345728
    Avatar photonulty
    Participant
    • Total Posts 443

    Vintage Clouds was running well in this last year 7lbs lower. He was under pressure 3 furlongs out and couldn’t get his landing gear out jumping the second last.

    His form on testing ground is well known. We won’t know the ground for certain until the races are run, but this fella likes it soft.

    Sue Smith form is not a worry with two winners lately 2/10 (20%). And Danny Cook has won 5/21 (24%) in the last 2 weeks.

    Based on his run last year I think he could go much closer with the slower ground and 14/1 is underestimating him

    #1345740
    Avatar photoMarkTT
    Participant
    • Total Posts 3080

    The worst renewal I’ve seen in many a year.

    The favourite has every right to be heading the market and I’m struggling for confidence in any of those behind him in the market.
    I might have to stick with Wakanda, though I doubt the course will suit. He might be capable of another Wichita Lineman

    #1345788
    Avatar photoraymo61
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6943

    Don’t mention Wichita Mark !!!
    Grrrr I was on Maljimar and had it with Forpady and garde Champetre in three each way doubles and an each way treble!!
    That damned Mccoy cost me plenty that day!! I still have nightmares!! :wacko: :wacko:

Viewing 17 posts - 35 through 51 (of 82 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.