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  • #47718
    Aragorn
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    I like Homer Wells.. Won the Thyestes and a grade 2 chase subsequently so proved he has class and stays and is off 10st 6lbs. He’s receiving more weight off point barrow than in the Thyestes even though he beat him… The only downside is obviously the ground as he’d probably prefer plenty of cut but that applies to a lot of the field and he’s pretty much untried on the ground so who knows.. Its a lottery anyway.

    Edited to say, he’s the right age as well….

    (Edited by Aragorn at 12:02 pm on April 11, 2007)

    #47719
    clivex
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    Eurotrek does interest me

    Hes barely been raced but knows the fences now and proved in November that he doesnt require soft going

    Trainer has talked of him having near GC ability and if his jumping holds (its not always perfect…) then he must run well even with 11st 8

    #47720
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from clivex on 6:49 pm on April 11, 2007[br]Eurotrek does interest me

    Hes barely been raced but knows the fences now and proved in November that he doesnt require soft going

    Trainer has talked of him having near GC ability and if his jumping holds (its not always perfect…) then he must run well even with 11st 8

    Clivex<br>There’s one that knows the course a lot better, will positively relish faster ground, is already established as a Gold Cup horse, and has no questions to answer regarding his jumping.<br>Furthermore, he only has to give 4lbs to your moke!:biggrin:  

    #47721
    bear
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    The Ryanair form of Billyvoddan is outstanding in my opinion, the fact that Richard Johnson doesn’t ride is an advantage, the Daly stable is in form, good ground suits, he is a young improver in what appears a National rather bereft of quality. 20/1 still available!

    #47722
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    Last 40 and reserves::<br>JohnSmith’s Grand National Declared runners: Hedgehunter, Eurotrek, L’Ami, Monkerhostin, Thisthatandtother, Billyvoddan, Numbersixvalverde, Idle Talk, Royal Auclair, Cloudy Bays, Knowhere, Kelami, Point Barrow, Celtic Son, Simon, Ballycassidy, Clan Royal, Gallant Approach, Livingstonebramble, Dun Doire, Kandjar D4Allier, Slim Pickings, Zabenz, Bewleys Berry, Longshanks, Bothar Na, Graphic Approach, Homer Wells, Liberthine, Silver Birch, Philson Run, Puntal, The Outlier, Tikram, McKelvey, Naunton Brook, Jack High, Sonevafushi, Joes Edge, Le Duc. <br>Reserves: Risk Accessor, Undeniable, Dunbrody Millar, Lou Du Moulin MasJohnSmith’s Grand National Declared runners: Hedgehunter, Eurotrek, L’Ami, Monkerhostin, Thisthatandtother, Billyvoddan, Numbersixvalverde, Idle Talk, Royal Auclair, Cloudy Bays, Knowhere, Kelami, Point Barrow, Celtic Son, Simon, Ballycassidy, Clan Royal, Gallant Approach, Livingstonebramble, Dun Doire, Kandjar D4Allier, Slim Pickings, Zabenz, Bewleys Berry, Longshanks, Bothar Na, Graphic Approach, Homer Wells, Liberthine, Silver Birch, Philson Run, Puntal, The Outlier, Tikram, McKelvey, Naunton Brook, Jack High, Sonevafushi, Joes Edge, Le Duc. <br>Reserves: Risk Accessor, Undeniable, Dunbrody Millar, Lou Du Moulin Mas

    #47723
    clivex
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    yes reet

    but hes knackered ;)

    #47724
    Friggo
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    Quote: from clivex on 12:32 pm on April 12, 2007[br]yes reet

    but hes knackered ;)

    That’s the only concern about Hedgehunter, but I think it’s a bloody big one! If I was convinced he was fully fit, he’d be the greatest place certainty in the race since Amberleigh House.

    #47725
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    Quote: from clivex on 12:32 pm on April 12, 2007[br]yes reet

    but hes knackered ;) <br>

    Ruby obviously doesn’t think so.:)  <br> He’s discarded yours to ride mine.

    #47726
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    After watching Joes Edge fade out of contention in last years National, I can’t believe he’s looking like starting favourite.

    Granted the ground will suit plus he’s carrying less weight and in better form this year.  Surely he doesn’t fit the profile of a National winner?

    Just can’t fancy him myself.

    #47727
    Pegwell Bay
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    I wonder how many ‘smart alecs’ will be writing ‘Number Six’ on their betting slips on Saturday, hoping to get 2 bets for the price of 1, on Numbersixvalverde & Billyvodan. Nightmare!

    Glad my days of mixing settling and counter-clerking are long gone.  :yikes:

    #47728
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    Quote: from clivex on 12:32 pm on April 12, 2007<br>yes reet

    but hes knackered  

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    Ruby obviously doesn’t think so.   <br>He’s discarded yours to ride mine

    .

    Just finished a bio of alf ramsey whos one fault ws perhaps misplaced loyalty to past it players…..

    Ill send my copy to ruby on saturday night :) <br>

    #47729
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    Quote: from clivex on 9:36 pm on April 12, 2007[br]

    Just finished a bio of alf ramsey whos one fault ws perhaps misplaced loyalty to past it players…..

    Ill send my copy to ruby on saturday night :) <br>

    <br>:laugh:

    I’m still not backing Eurotrek though. You need to be a real stand-out to win the National with 11-8 IMO.

    Anyway, reports today from the jockeys in the Hunter’s chase suggest that the National course is ‘on the slow side of good’. It would appear that the watering is working. I’d love it to stay in the high 6’s on the going stick for Saturday.

    (Edited by Friggo at 10:05 pm on April 12, 2007)

    #47730
    DeadlySins
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    I like Silver Birch at a price but he will have to reproduce the form he was in when with Paul Nicholls. About 25/1 I believe. Good luck.

    #47731
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    Quote: from clivex on 9:36 pm on April 12, 2007 Just finished a bio of alf ramsey whos one fault ws perhaps misplaced loyalty to past it players…..

    He’d never win anything with a profile like that, would he?:biggrin:

    #47732
    earlobes
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    After spending hours reading forms and watching how walsh mcoy and others have been going, i think  thornton and "simon" seem to be a good combination to me.  But i have to inform you i’m a novice at this as i have only been betting on the horse’s under a year now.

    #47733
    SwallowCottage
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    My few quid will be going on Billyvodan for the reasons that Bear has already stated. <br>I’m also going to bet on Royal Auclair who should like the better ground at Aintree and has run well in the National before.

    #47734
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    the winner this year will be Simon of course although Bewleys Berry looks worth an each-way saver

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