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I’d proffer that the bigotry present in (some) Indians – or (some) South Asians more generally – is more likely to be of a religious nature than based on skin colour: the age-old trichotomy of Hinduism, Islam and Sikhism. To which could possibly be added Jainism and Buddhism too.
And lest I be accused of ‘religionism’ I’ll make it clear that the relationship between Catholicism and Protestantism has hardly been all wine and roses.
Read again mike I said a small number and they were having a tough time
I doubt my old man would have made it up all those years later although in your book him being a white bomber engineer could well be the reason he lied
Btw he did hate the Americans more (the white ones) brash loud and plain arses as he put itWell done your dad – spot on for recognising many Americans are arrogant and loud mouthed. That’s why they voted Trump, an expert in arrogance, with a massive ability to hate the whole world outside the White House.
Farage and co already getting the excuses in early just in case, they’re whining about ‘family voting’. Do you hear that doggies?
For what it’s worth, whoever wins it’s not going to be a ringing endorsement of them as somewhere between two thirds and three quarters of the votes will be for someone else. It will only serve to show that we need rid of this ridiculous system that we have.
Think greens will win seat but at 2s on I am not telling people something new. Think all parties in this country are ‘strange’ to say the least
Richard what is/does family voting mean? Thanks for any helphttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/feb/26/drop-in-overseas-workers-uk-hospitals-and-care-homes
Exactly what Reform want, of course, so that they can sell the NHS to their billionaire masters.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cp8rjk02r0jt
Good. This result shows two things: that Reform can be stopped, and that Labour has to stop moving to the right.
Lo and behold – the Reform candidate is blaming his defeat on “Islamists and woke progressives”.
I find it hilarious that RWNJ find “progressive” to be an insult. They’d prefer society to be moving backwards.
I have to say that’s a bigger margin than I expected, well done Greens and Ms Spencer.
The result was not a massive shock as a couple of us said a while ago. Quite simply, Labour’s left wing voters from 2024 didn’t become, to borrow a phrase, RWNJ overnight. They went out and voted for a party that is on the left.
Worth noting that Spencer is the daughter of a nurse, left school at 16 to become a plumber and also recently became a qualified plasterer. More working class credentials than the entirety of Reform put together.
nwalton, family voting is a new term to me as well. It is where people force or coerce family members into voting a certain way. It was allegedly witnessed yesterday. As a criminal offence, whoever witnessed it should presumably have reported it to the police. Certainly nothing was mentioned before the polls closed when officials could possibly have looked into it further.
The implication is that it primarily happens amongst Muslims although quite why anyone in Reform thinks that Muslim women would vote for them if their husbands didn’t force them to vote for someone else is beyond me.
To be clear, if this is going on then of course it should be stopped but that’s for the various authorities to investigate. There’s no way it’s swung the contest by 4.5k votes though.
Thanks for reply Richard
For once agree with Glad labour have to stop taking on reform( as in trying to out reform them) and go back to being labour
Labour is showing the same tactical ineptitude that the Democrats displayed in the USA paving the way for Trump.
I hope this is a wake up call for them, they still have over three years with a massive majority. There’s still time to make use of it.
Just an aside, but I’m currently watching a tv seties called Years and Years.
Made in 2019 I think, it’s gripping and chilling.family voting is a new term to me as well. It is where people force or coerce family members into voting a certain way. It was allegedly witnessed yesterday. As a criminal offence, whoever witnessed it should presumably have reported it to the police.
Not a term I was aware of either. Not entirely sure but I think coercion to vote a certain way is only a criminal offence within the polling station, when a family member – or anyone – accompanies the voter to the polling booth and tells them who to vote for. Presumably this is what was observed.
Anyway, a pleasing result though like all by-election results not one to be taken too literally as a ‘seismic shift in the political landscape’ or to be dogmatically extrapolated to the next general election.
A painful kick up Starmer’s jacksy: get with it man.
“a ‘seismic shift in the political landscape’”
It’s odd how this would have been the line had Reform won; given that the media darlings got beaten, the narrative is now all about how screwed Starmer is.
Reform’s, sorry the BBC’s, Chris Mason isn’t taking it very well. Look how far you have to go before he even mentions his ‘quick word’ with Polanski and there’s no comment provided at all from Spencer. Happy to parrot the second and third placed parties’ tantrum though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy03ydp27nno
I’m sure the rest of the right wing media will accept the will of the people of Gorton and Denton with customary good grace.
The expected mumblings have surfaced from some among the defeated factions about low turnout in by-elections impinging on their chances; but as it happens turnout at 47.6% was rather good for a by-election and only fractionally down on the 48.01% at the general election.
Had turnout increased on the GE that would have been rare indeed: just 31 times in all and none since 1971.
Richard 88 “The implication is that it primarily happens amongst Muslims although quite why anyone in Reform thinks that Muslim women would vote for them if their husbands didn’t force them to vote for someone else is beyond me.”
Yes, I am sure those Muslim families were really desperate to vote for the racist who threatens to deport millions of immigrants and were forced to vote for a party whose leader is the openly Jewish, indeed changing his name from Paulden to Polanski to acknowledge his family origins.
Reform will invent any kind of sinister untruth that suits their purposes and no doubt their hardcore followers will believe it, just as the MAGA halfwits do in the USA.
Meanwhile BBC is doing its best to undermine the Green Party spokespeople with Nick Robinson constantly interrupting while nodding deferentially to Reform’s.
“It’s odd how this would have been the line had Reform won; given that the media darlings got beaten, the narrative is now all about how screwed Starmer is”
and yet Corbyn lost an election but didn’t stand down as leader. The media are so desperate to get rid of Starmer and I’m sure it isn’t because he isn’t doing enough for working people. Maybe he would be safer from them if he gave them some juicy headlines about his private life.
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