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I will keep adding to this as we get nearer to the 3 Spring Festivals of Cheltenham, Aintree and Punchestown.
This will give information such as stallion and broodmare sire records and stats at the 3 big jumping Festivals.
First up under the spotlight is Coolmore’s Monsun stallion GETAWAY.
His record over all three festivals is,
128 runs in 99 races
3 wins
14 placesThere’s no getting away from it. He has been very poor value when it comes to the big days.
Broken down to each Festival
Cheltenham 44 runs – 0 wins – 3 places
Aintree 25 runs – 1 win (Getaway Katie Mai) – 1 place
Punchestown 59 runs – 2 wins (Feronily, Musical Slave) – 10 placesSo, essentially, in England, nothing that has run at either Festival has won over an obstacle!
Next up it’s Coolmore again and their popular Galileo stallion MAHLER. Mmmm.
Overall Spring Festival record.
107 runs in 91 races
2 winners
16 placedBroken down by Festival
Cheltenham 35 runs – 1 win (The Real Whacker) – 4 places
Aintree 21 runs – 1 win (Ornua) – 2 places
Punchestown 51 runs – 0 win – 10 placesThere’s a lot of misplaced love for Mahler. Let’s be honest, another 100 yards and The Real Whacker wasn’t winning either!
Both Mahler and Getaway get a lot more winners in the UK than they do in Ireland. Their records in Ireland overall are shockingly bad. But here in the UK where the racing is more numerous and less competitive they have their place and do ok.
Final one today is Coolmore’s star pupil – the £25000 a pop WALK IN THE PARK
Overall Spring Festival record
107 runs in 79 races
19 wins
17 placedBroken down by Festival
Cheltenham 32 runs – 4 wins – 5 placed
Aintree 21 runs – 5 winners – 3 placed
Punchestown 54 runs – 10 wins – 9 placedA very healthy record but it must be said that 13 went to Cheltenham in 2023 and didn’t yield a win.
12 Grade 1’s have been shared between Douvan, Min, Facile Vega and Jonbon with varying degrees of competetiveness (I’m thinking of Jonbon’s Aintree win last year!).
Agree about Getaway being overated – seems to produce more than his fair share of big cumbersome creatures such as Five Star Getaway, and that highly tried big dopey slowboat of Twisters, Weveallbeencaught.
Be interesting to see what the stats say for Doyen
A lot of his progeny seem to start brightly but fizzle out
Banbridge should boost his stats having won at both Cheltenham and Aintree
I’ve heard it said often that a lot of the Getaway’s promise much but then don’t train on. They’ve actually started 2024 well in the UK but Weveallbeencaught is an excellent example. There were three or four in the media, Dan Barber being the most vociferous, when he first appeared saying that this was a future Grand National winner due to his size and all that stuff. He may well win a race or two but it will be nothing like the sort they first dreamed of.
Cheers. Appreciate it.
Should I do a more overall picture rather than just Spring Festivals? Not sure.
DOYEN
Doyen’s first runners appeared on a GB&IRE racecourse way back in 2010. He really wasn’t that popular when standing in the UK, was sent to Germany and finally went to Ireland where his popularity increased, no doubt with everyone running around trying to wring out the last few drops of Sadlers Wells’ immediate line that they can! He’s now been pensioned off.
His Festival record
Cheltenham 29 runs – 1 winner (Banbridge) – 9 placed
Aintree 27 runs – 2 winners (Florida Dreams, Banbridge) – 9 placed
Punchestown 45 runs – 2 winners (Kilbeg King, Magic Daze) – 9 placed3 of these winners and 11 of the placers came in Festival races with 20+ runners in them. He actually has a 33.33% win and place record in 20+ runner races. That’s excellent.
Some overall stats next.
The calendar year 2023 saw the most runs by Doyen’s on NH racecourses. They ran a total of 719 times in 644 races during 2023.
They won 90 of those races with a winners to runners percentage of 12.52% and a winners to races percentage of 13.98%, which is very good (but not exceptional). However, if you had put a £1 on every single one of those 719, you would be up by £62.65!
He has started 2024 with 3 wins and 1 place from 13 runners.
This is a bit niche but his runner record between the distances 26f – 30.5f is 75 runs – 11 wins (14.67%) and 15 places (34.67% win and place).
His overall record in GB&IRE under NH rules is
3883 runs in 3600 races
453 wins (11.67% runners to winners and 12.58% winners to races)
683 placed (29.26% win and place)His Grade 1 record is
51 runs in 48 races
5 wins (9.8% and 10.42%) (Battleoverdoyen x 2, Beacon Edge, Banbridge & Captain Teague)
9 placed (27.45% w&p)But his Grade 2 record is a lot better
71 runs in 66 races
11 wins (15.59% and 16.67%)
15 placed (36.62% w&p)This next one is how I would define exceptional. This is SAINT DES SAINTS but not as a stallion but as the broodmare sire.
I want to look at his influence overall, in all GB&IRE races thus far. Compare this to the figures above and you will see what I mean by exceptional.
He first appeared as the dam sire on our racecourses over here in 2014 and his only runner that year won that race. It was DOUVAN.
His record since and to date is,
941 runs in 909 races
202 wins (21.47% winners to runners & 22.22% winners to races)
176 placed (40.17% win & place)But this is where it gets mind blowing.
In conditions races at various levels
Listed
11 runs in 11 races
4 winners (36.36%)
2 placed (54.55% win and place)Grade 3
10 runs in 10 races
6 wins (60%)
2 placed (80% win and place)Grade 2
37 runs in 35 races
15 wins (40.54% and 42.86%)
2 placed (45.95% win and place)Grade 1
74 runs in 65 races
30 wins (40.54% and 46.15%)
12 placed (56.76% win and place)The 3 Spring Festival record
CHELTENHAM – 29 runs – 9 wins (DOUVAN x 2, ENVOI ALLEN x 3, SAINT ROI, APPRECIATE IT, EL FABIOLO, MASKADA) – 4 placed
AINTREE – 12 runs – 3 wins (DOUVAN, JONBON x 2) – 2 placed
PUNCHESTOWN – 18 runs – 5 wins (DOUVAN x 2, EL FABIOLO x 2, ANGELO DUNDEE) – 3 placed
Amazing.
Saint Des Saints 14 runs over jumps , French do it quite differently , be interesting to see stats for some other French jumpers who went to stud to see if they stack up .
Generally the French do it right. They win the Graded races on the track and off they go to stud! JIGME arguably the most high profile one to enter stud this year.
SAINT DES SAINTS is going to keep going for a long time through his sons namely the two brothers GOLIATH DU BERLAIS and DAVID DU BERLAIS. The Irish have snapped up JEU ST ELOI plus there is NA HAS and the big brute MAGIC DREAM.
I have heard whispers that the Quevega boys have a WALK IN THE PARK foal that hasn’t been gelded yet and that they are contemplating making a stallion out of him. They will want to race him first though because he will be worth a bundle more with a decent racing CV.
JONBON and DOUVAN’S full brother HEROSTAR is at stud in France for 2024 but he hasn’t raced, so it will be interesting to see if that brings about any reluctance.
I see the plan I read about few years back with Midnight Legend came off , his last offspring Midnights Legacy won a few over jumps and has found a place a stud , be intetesting to see how he goes once they hit the track in a few years .
Ive only seen French Jumps racing on TV but do plan to go one day as its on my bucket list ( ticking off Japan in April having been inspired by Archipenko on this forum ) . The jumps appear in the main smaller and less sturdy , is it a physical thing that they keep more horses intact ? , then it has by chance worked out and its now a plan with the good ones . Very different paths in breeding .
I remember when i first followed the sport in 82 there was a full horse did well in two milers , began with T , odd name russian maybe . Every race the comments person mentioned he had his balls .Was Irish name not Russian , Toirdealbhach . Had a few foals , only winner Moloneys Dream who won one race and was his last runner in 2001 when falling at Southwell .
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