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Was reading that aidan has won 42% of group ones at 12f and more in the last 3 years in gb. Scary stat but highlights firstly the galileo influence and what agame changer he was but also the lack of middle distance horses outside coolmore. Most of the top sires not at coolmore are miler/10 f horses so can’t see the gap between coolmore and the rest closing anytime soon. The fact that aidan has half the field is no surprise really. Now coolmore have wootton bassett whose progeny win over a huge number of trips plus justify. The Japanese are similar to coolmore in their breeding of middle distance horses and they are having great success with that.
The trend towards speedier stallions has be en going on for decades so very sad to see aidan having another penalty kick in the leger. Cest la vie.Betfred St Leger confirmed runners and riders
Carmers Billy Lee
Furthur Oisin Murphy
Lambourn Sean Levey
Rahiebb Ray Dawson
Scandinavia Tom Marquand
Stay True Mickael Barzalona
Tarriance Colin KeaneVf x
You’ve got the Derby winner and Group 1 Goodwood Cup winner running in the Leger… And the Group 2 Queens Vase 1 – 2 – 3.
What more do you want?Not much on form between the big two. Scandanavia seems to be the “improver”, having put up a good performance against his elders at Goodwood. However, although Lambourn isn’t a great Derby winner – to my mind he’s been crying out for this trip – could yet improve… And the going might be in his favour more than Scandanavia if there’s more rain. I’ve heard some good paddock judges believe Lambourn needed the Voltigeur run and beaten only 3 lengths trying to give the 5 lbs Group 1 pen’, anyway. Wasn’t as bad a run as some made out.
Stay True finished in front of Lambourn at York and lightly raced enough to suggest has more improvement in him. But although I can see him “staying”, judged by his temperament / way of racing – he’s imo less likely to improve for the step up in trip than his stable companions. If winning today I won’t be pleased, after the ride he was given with my money on him at Lingfield! Possible might be sacrificed as pacemaker today, but then again Barza’ would be a strange jockey booking if that were True. Maybe Lambourn will go to the front.
The Voltigeur second Carmers may need to prove his ability to act on a softer surface too. But if acting on it, the added stamina test should suit. Needed the whole mile and a half to get the runner-up spot at York and may yet improve back over further. Especially with his trainer being in good form. That said, Lambourn and Scandanavia seem more likely to be capable of proper Group 1 winning form…
I have done one at a massive price. Rahiebb. Wasn’t far behind Carmers in the Queens Vase despite racing wide. Didn’t act at Goodwood last time… And most importantly – Varian is in magnificent form – so it’s possible the horse could make significant progression today. 31/1 too big to ignore yesterday.
I’ve backed Lambourn and Rahiebb with a saver on Carmers.
Value Is Everything‘Lambourn just does enough”
This is one racing term which really gets on my nerves.
“For a horse to only “just do enough”, it has to understand the concept of a race: it has to realise that it is there, on that day, at that time, to finish in front of the other horses at some point which it doesn’t understand.
That means it has to know both the distance of the race and where the finishing post lies.
Now, there may be an argument that a front-runner does not want to let another horse get past it, which I accept. But a horse coming from behind cannot possibly understand at what point it needs to be in front of the other horses.
Looking at it logically, a horse cannot possibly know where a race ends. Therefore, the entire concept of “only just does enough” is preposterous”.
—————————————————–Sorry to “get on your nerves” Glad, but “just does enough” is imo sometimes a worthy description.
Yes, “front runners often don’t want to let another horse past”.
But also, horses are instinctively pack animals. In the wild some are leaders, some like to be in the middle of the pack and some on the outer edge. Racehorses have similar traits and connections make use of a racehorse’s individual traits in how they are both raced and trained.Some hold up horses will idle once in front.
…And even some that don’t “idle” enough to make them in danger of losing – they still won’t want to go too far away from the pack / rivals.
So although no horse “knows where a race ends”, some don’t want to go too far clear and therefore the term “just does enough” could be a fair one. That said, although it is imo an overused saying…
…Might be more relevant with Aidan’s horses. As, although he has had (by far) more “top class” horses than anyone else, they seldom win by very far… Which contributes to the fact AOB has not (by ratings) had any “great racehorses”. ie Maybe one or two have had the ability to be great horses but have not been able to show it on the racecourse because of their traits… AND the way they’ve been trained.
Not sure it applies to Lambourn, but maybe after the Epsom experience he no longer wants to go clear.
Value Is EverythingPleased to see that Fred Done has revealed on ITV that he’s had a tip for Rahiebb. (Hopefully from someone other than any of the ITV mob!)
Lambourn e/w @ 3/1
Whats going on here with the price of this, why isnt he evs? Ryan would have picked him
Epsom Derby form very weak (only the 8th placed horse won a weak German G1 next time out over 10 furlongs) and the Irish Derby form is as usual more than doubtful. Every time a Ballydoyle runner goes for that Derby double you know he isn’t worth much.
Scandinavia might improve at four and become the stable’s number stayer.Well done Mike.
Don’t know if it was a combination of the pace, ground, getting racing so far out or them all just being boats but that seemed to take an age for them to come home all of them just bobbing on at the one pace.
For me – Lambourn didn’t look good in the paddock and the ground was also faster than most were saying. Time beat standard, so that surface wasn’t for Lambourn and not against Scandanavia at all. Yes, both Derbys weren’t up to standard; but the form shown to win them was better than Lambourn produced today. So it is a shame we didn’t get that duel. However, with Rahiebb and Stay True running well, it was still a good quality race.
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