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    darren83
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    JAN BRUEGHEL 16/1

    Made his debut yesterday in a easy win very strong at the finish. 1m2 win and look even better going further in trip.

    Highbury another horse I like to and these lightly race horses could be stars for AOB

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    darren83
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    Any views on the race since the derby is over.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Yep,
    Get on Los Angeles.

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    Devonian
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    Yep Los Angeles for me too

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    Mike007
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    Los Angeles ew

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    pilgarlic
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    Is the strong fancy for Los Angeles based on the supposition that nothing else is likely to come through or show later development ?

    I thought his Derby run was a bare minimum in terms of expectations.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    He’s a boat and looks made for the test of the leger would be the thinking I’d imagine

    The queen’s vase will throw up a contender I’m sure

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    Mike007
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    He’s not a boat lol

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    Avatar photojackh1092
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    Was about to say he’s not a boat, but he’s less classy than COT, so might well take this in.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    He’s quick enough to do fractions in the Derby that were actually too fast for his own good, but still stayed on to keep third.
    He’s not a boat. He’s a very naughty boy.
    Got a bit het up beforehand without which he may have done better still… And is a staying type that should do better at the Leger trip than he is at 12f.

    The only downside is Will he be too good? Will he win the Irish Derby impressively and be a type for the Arc? Freeing up COT for an American campaign… Whilst Coolmore have a lot of 12 to 15f types that may not as good as Los Angeles but good enough to win the St Leger.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Any flat horse that wants 1m6f+ is a boat in my books

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    mickeyjp
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    Highbury looked very impressive. Should make the mid to later parts of the season very interesting.

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    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Highbury was impressive, but he had had a run this season and it was only a minor race.

    Would Illiois be a type that might go for the Queens Vase? :unsure:
    Or one of AOB’s Irish Derby contenders?
    Or the King Ed?
    Might run into the Derby second again if the latter.

    Or will he not run in any of them on summer ground? :unsure:

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    LD73
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    Will AOB view LA as a St Leger candidate? Sometimes he uses it as a stepping stone for those he thinks could be potentially Cup horse in the following years.

    For many of us, the St Leger is the obvious place to go with him but I have a feeling they will not view him as that type of horse and will desperately want to win a 12F G1 with him for breeding purposes. If that is not in the Irish Derby (assuming COT turns up instead) then another option could be the Grand Prix de Paris (aka the real French Derby now) at Longchamp in mid July and then maybe onto the St Leger via the Voltiguer?

    Long term, I could also see him being a candidate for a proper soft ground Arc as he coped well with that deep French ground in last year’s Criterium de Saint-Cloud. You could see him sitting handy and then kicking on off the home turn and just galloping on relentlessly as other flounder in the ground.

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    TheTinMan87
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    LD73 he could do both. Kew Gardens won the Grand Prix de Paris, Capri won an Irish Derby and both went and won the St Leger too. I think he’s a similar sort of horse to them. I don’t personally think he’s classy enough to be winning any major group 1’s over 12F in open company (Arc’s, King George’s etc) which was also the case for Kew Gardens and Capri and probably others I’ve forgotten.

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    silent assassins
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    Think the dark horse for this could be Jan Brueghel @16/1 Wii know more after it’s 2nd run could learn a lot more about this race when we see entries for queen’s vase at Royal Sscot

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