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- August 21, 2019 at 15:43 #1451569
Looks like there is zero chance il be getting a run for my money with japan
August 21, 2019 at 16:08 #1451581Yeah ff- amusing when Ed Chamberlain said surely they’ll go SL after that. Not a chance surely.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 23, 2019 at 15:36 #1451845That was some St Leger trial from Il Paradiso today. Don’t think the 16s will last long.
August 28, 2019 at 16:23 #1452286No japan, anthony van dyck, sovereign, broome in the betting anymore
Il paradiso is the interesting one given how good his run was at york
Though obviously anyone with a good price on logician is in a very strong position
August 28, 2019 at 20:10 #1452294Sadly no Spanish Mission but am on Il Paradiso at 16s.
Hopefully they get there.August 31, 2019 at 14:18 #1452507There’s a horse I like, Passion and Glory, but I’m in the dark as to what route he will take this season, and he might actually be one for next season.
I have actually bet him for The Cambridgeshire, but I’m curious about his entry here as well, so I took the 66-1 ew.
September 3, 2019 at 19:25 #1452788Been offered a fairly decent cash out 3x stake for Logician. Tempted to take it, there’s been a lot of support for Sir Dragonet recently as well as Il Paradiso.
Logician has also been strong recently, so I guess that suggests he will go here, despite JG being non committal about it at York. Who knows with JG though, he’ll probably retire him

Hmmm what to do
September 4, 2019 at 16:51 #1452844Frenchy, never ever cash out on a big race with a valid runner. If you want to secure money you will be better off laying the horse on the exchanges.
September 4, 2019 at 17:56 #1452846What Kev said!
https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/hot-favourite-logician-given-green-light-for-st-leger/398159
Sounds like the people who actually make the decisions Frenchy are pointing in this direction….
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 4, 2019 at 18:03 #1452847Ah well, he’s definitely running so I’ll keep it in then. Was slightly worried he might not run yesterday.
September 14, 2019 at 06:20 #1454820I went to post on here the other day that I’ve backed Sir Dragonet @ 5.4 on the exchange but I didn’t see a St Leger thread so thought I’d wait til today.
I really think it’s a poor race yet again and, for a ‘classic’ it’s a real shame it gets such a poor turnout year on year.
Anyway, Logician beat a glorified handicapper in Constantinople in the Great Voltigeir (I backed him that day thinking he may beat Logician as it goes). I think Evens is simply because of the time being decent that day and the fact Gosden likes him. With it being in the Frankel/Enable colours and an unbeaten potential superstar profile to the casual Saturday punter, I suspect he will go off odds on. I think that’s poor value.
Even looking at it ignoring my 5.4 on Sir Dragonet, I think the 5/2 on offer with Skybet and Boylesports is still very fair. He’s classy, looks a very likely stayer, is said to be working well at home and has genuine group 1 form. On form, he ought to be favourite here. Although I understand why he isn’t of course. To me, he really should be about 15/8 at the absolute max but a general 7/4 shot.
Il Paradiso is a funny old price because he was almost unthought if by most for this before serving it up to Stradivarius at York which instantly made him a lively one for this. It took longer than expected, but the plunge that occurs every year in the fortnight before this race came and it came for him. I can see why but I wouldn’t have him in front of the other main O’Brien candidate – as jockey bookings suggests too.
Sir Ron Priestley has looked a Leger horse all year but it’s a bit of an indictment of the race that he’s fourth favourite. Surely Sir Dragonet or Logician will have too much class? That being said, being a guaranteed stayer and battler like SRP is very much a plus for all races but especially one as gruelling as the Leger.
Dashing Willoughby is another grueller so the test should suit him and I’d prefer him tonTechnician at a similar price.
Nayef Road surely isn’t going to be good enough to win but might sneak a place and Western Australia continues to run in every ITV middle-distance group race for three year olds.
Without a shadow of a doubt, it’s Sir Dragonet for me in the 2019 St Leger
September 14, 2019 at 07:02 #1454824The vibes around Logican are very strong, I think he’s going to hose up. I was on at 10s before the GV so I’m sitting pretty and backed Sir Dragonet to cover last week. Technician EW is also a small play but for me it’s all about Logician now, very confident bet this one and in all my multiples for the day.
September 14, 2019 at 07:58 #1454829Time will tell but Sir Dragonet looks like an easy ground 12f horse to me. Neither today.
September 14, 2019 at 09:25 #1454837LOGICIAN looks a good thing at 11/10 but not really my kind of price but had to bet it as can’t see a danger!!
After some thought I backed DASHING WILLOUGHBY each way at 22/1 as well as I don’t think Sir dragonet will like the ground and Il Paradiso could have been a one off against Stradivarius!!
September 14, 2019 at 09:38 #1454839Il paradiso for me @ 9/1 e/w, just something about logician that i dont think he will get home, is the beating of constantinople really of any value in this race? this is sure to be run at a decent gallop, SRP probably off in front with DW in behind, obrien would rather a slower pace for SD but hes not going to get it and i agree with whoever said about a 12f soft horse, he cant win this IMO, WA is just in here for the 8th runner… IP looks the bet for me at the price e/w, hard to imagine if he replicates either of his last two runs that he wont be atleast 3rd, SRP the other i think will tough out a place, probably logician plugging on in 3rd
I hope….

Good luck!
September 14, 2019 at 09:54 #1454843As many have been saying Logician’s beating of Constantinople isn’t exciting. At the price he can win if he wants. Shocking price for me, but this year the trainer and jockey have been mopping up so i can sort’ve see why.
John Gosden also doesn’t have a very good record in this. It might be a poor renewal, who knows.
Sir Dragonet for me too. I’ll have a bit of Il Paradiso too as he’s drifting out to a backable price.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 14, 2019 at 09:57 #1454844I cant see past Logician no matter how hard I try.
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